Brake Disc and Pads

[satmarshall]

I think I've decided to go with the Pagid Blues.
I know they're softer than the yellows, but how much harder will the blues be than the OEM street pads?
Will there be a big enough difference between Blues and the OEM pads to make it worth while?

[Craig@Rennstore.com]

Sure sounds like you've pad transfered.... w/o turning the rotors, it is very difficult to get off the transferred material.

Stock pads ARE indeed fine for novices.
In fact, for the first event or two use the OEM to be certain you enjoy track days before investing, and I mean investing, in track components.

If you enjoy track days - and you will:

Highly, HIGHLY recommend Pagid Yellows for track days.

FWIW, I have never ever had a Pagid Yellow pad transfer - I'd be very hesitant to use an unproven pad on an R8.

Keep in mind the Pagid Yellows are EXACTLY the SAME compound used by something like 80% of the teams in ALMS, 24 hrs of Daytona, Sebring....cannot say that for Carbo can we? ;-)

Since you swap out tires, swap out pads at the same time -

TIP: Mark exact pad locations of Pagids & OEM using a permanent marker;
makes pad re-bedding extremely easy and saves a TON on thepad material re-bed wear rate!

[MotherTucker]

I think I've decided to go with the Pagid Blues.
I know they're softer than the yellows, but how much harder will the blues be than the OEM street pads?
Will there be a big enough difference between Blues and the OEM pads to make it worth while?

Here's a thread where there is some discussion of using the Blues. Are there better brake pads than OEM?

Reading that, it's not clear the Blues are hugely different than the stock pads. On the other hand, OEMPL.US sells them specifically as an upgrade from the stock pads. And if you read the description of the PAGID compound here http://www.braketechnology.com/racecharacteristics.html it actually is a racing compound for rally racing (which uses the brakes a lot less than an endurance race like the LeMans series).

So my guess is they will be an improvement over the stock pads. Why don't you try them out and let us know?

[MotherTucker]

Here's Carbotech's documentation on bedding in of both brake pads and rotors. Since these are for race pads, these instructions are for use at a race track. Maybe you've got some local roads that would do?

mt

[Craig@Rennstore.com]

Pagids' chart:

RACING PAD BEDDING

PLEASE NOTE:
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE BEDDING IN PROCEDURES ARE BEING DONE ONLY ON A RACE TRACK. PAGID RACING MATERIAL IS NOT LEGAL FOR STREET USE.

1. GEOMETRIC ALIGNMENT OF PAD SURFACE TO BRAKE DISC BASIC BEDDING IN

3-4 stops with light to medium brake pressure from approximately 150 km/h (90 MPH) to approximately 100 km/h (65 MPH).

Distance between each brake stop is approximately 300-400 meters (300 to 400 yards).

The pads should not reach temperatures above 300-400 Centigrade (550 to 750 Fahrenheit) during bedding in.

Blocking of the air ducts might be helpful to reach appropriate temperatures quicker.



2. IMMEDIATELY AFTER BEDDING IN AT HIGH SPEED

One stop with medium to heavy brake pressure without allowing the brakes to lock from approximately 180 km/h (110 MPH) to approximately 100 km/h (65 MPH).

Recovery stops with light brake pressure 2-3 times.

Repeat the high speed stops, including recovery stops, 1-2 times.

Allow a cooling-off distance of approximately 500 m (500 yards) between high speed stops.


BRAKE DISC
Pagid brake pad material can be used either on solid, grooved or cross-drilled discs.

[satmarshall]

Thanks guys. My track season is coming to an end (I live in Ottawa, Ontario so winter is almost here!) so I'll try this next season.