R tronic transmission?

[Paul]

How is it that I despise anything? I despise it because I am saying it is basically a Gallardo with a smaller engine block? Those who say it isn't are just fooling themselves. The facts are right there... same tranny , same chassi , same drive system , same wheels.

You obviously haven't read that the transmission is not the same, R-Tronic and E-Gear are not one and the same ... the chassis, whilst admitedly sharing large amounts of, and or, large similarities with the Gallardo chassis, is (I doubt) not actually the same ... they both have four wheel drive systems yes, but I doubt they're exactly the same ... any just because the wheel sizes are the same, doesn't make them the "same wheels" ... does the exteriors of the car look that much alike ... ... and then to top it all, you come out with this little gem ...

The Engine block is just detuned and has Audi written on it instead of Lamborghini.

The 4.2litre V8 that they are using in the R8 is actually a fairly new Audi lump ... and is not detuned in any way shape or form ... it's the same lump (just with dry sump) that they used in the RS4 ... which is was the first time it was used at that power rating ... it is not a "detuned" Lamborghini engine ... in fact the 5.0litre V10 in the Gallardo actually has more to do with Audi than it does Lamborghini ... just because the V10 (probably) firsrt appeared in a Lambo doesn't mean it was designed by them.

[TTej]

and Audi took that Lambo V10, bored it out to 5.2l and put it in botht he S8 and S6 and it will probably find its way back to lambo.

I dont know where your getting your information from but reading it on the walls of your local pub probably isnt the best place to start.


and i thought the R8 was slightly larger than the lambo?

[Paul]

... ... ... the car is so much like a Gallardo anyway. Exact same wheels , Exact same length. Only difference is the engine size it looks like.
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and i thought the R8 was slightly larger than the lambo?

And the winner is ... TTej ...

Just to confirm this ...
Gallardo
Wheelbase = 2560mm
Length = 4300mm
Width = 1900mm
Height = 1184mm
R8
Wheelbase = 2650mm
Length = 4431
Width = 1904mm
Height = 1249mm

Once more it's been highlighted that the R8 is not a Gallardo wearing four rings instead of a bull ...

Now ... to sum up ... at this point in time ...
Chassis ... simialr, large parts of the major components are no doubt shared, but not all ...
Engine ... the R8 has a fairly new Audi lump which is smaller than the Gallardo's ... it is not a detuned Lambo lump ... the Gallardo V10 is more Audi design than it is Lambo anyway ...
Acceleration ... R8 4.6secs to 62mph ... Gallardo 4.0secs to 62mph ... in reality that is a huge gap ... tenths of a second are difficult to come by when you're near the 4 second area ...
Top Speed ... R8 187mph ... Gallardo 196mph ... not a huge differece I suppose ... but more than enough for people interested in figures ...
Wheels ... same diameter, I think the same width, but they certainly aren't 'the same' ...
Size ... not the same at all really ... although the difference in width is minimal ...
Exterior ... visually they are remarkably different ... R8 curvey ... Gallardo angluar ... R8 less 'in your face' / 'meanacing' then the Gallardo ...
Reliability ... not proof yet ... but heck, lets face it, your average R8 will likely spend less time back at the garage being fixed than your average Gallardo ... meaning more time to drive it ...

I'm sure I'll have missed something ... but heck ... no one is perfect ... not even me ... ... even though I'm always right ... ... I thought I was wrong once ... ... but I was mistaken ...

[jeff121]

doesn't make them the "same wheels"

they are exactly the same wheels as you can see this one driving around with a set of Gallardo wheels on it. they just made the final ones appear visually different.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e...2500fffd84.htm

notice how he always compares it to the Gallardo because they are so similar. he also says it will come with a detuned 450HP Gallardo engine or the 420 hp one..

a few inches this way or that way in length doesn't exactly matter much. It's the same sized car. they just lengthened it a few inches for whatever reasons.

Personally I am more interested in the detuned Gallardo engine than the 420 HP one and may hold off buying one until that version is out.
A 420 4.2 liter is kind of nancy sounding for a sports car. Say what you like about the Gallardo's sketchy engineering but the engine is one of the baddest sounding things out there. Stick that v10 into the R8 with better engineering and you got yourself one killer car.

[Paul]

they are exactly the same wheels as you can see this one driving around with a set of Gallardo wheels on it. they just made the final ones appear visually different.
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At last you have seen the light ... the wheels are different ... you've said it yourself ...
They either "are exactly the same" ... or they are not ... same size maybe ... but if they are visually different ... they are not "exactly the same" ... are they ... yes ... or ... no ...