Stasis vs APR tunes

[marcuslf]

I'm trying to distill the differences between the APR and Stasis tunes. First, it seems pretty hard to directly compare the dyno charts. Stasis only shows an example with 91 octane, but says output will be "higher" with 93 octane.

Stasis materials aren't consistent, either. My dealer gave me a Stasis brochure for the R8 that shows a 27hp/41ft-lb gain over stock - IF you have the Stasis exhaust upgrade also.

However, the Stasis website shows ECU alone with gains of 27/41, and 50hp/44ft-lb with the exhaust. It also shows a dyno chart that has a max of 556HP (ECU only/91 octane), 33 Hp over the stock on that chart.

Which one is correct?

At 91 octane, APR shows a gain of 33hp/17ft-lb.


Regardless of which one is right, it seems like they both offer sorta similar HP gains, but the Stasis has a significantly bigger torque gain, plus the warranty protection.

Anyone know which figures are correct? Am I interpreting things wrong?

[SteveR]

I haven't seen independant Stasis numbers yet, so other than looking at their data you are on your own.

A few have posted APR numbers. My 93 tune numbers aren't as good as what you see on APR's website, but my dyno runs were done on a hot/humid day. I called them about it and they said they got their dyno numbers on a cool early spring day (ideal conditions). I don't know if one tune is significantly better than the other. Stasis is factory supported (sorta) but more expensive and the higher octane benefits are unknown. APR posts useful data that I think is believable, they have a good track record, it is reversable at any APR tuner, and it's less expensive. I went with the semi-known quantity and am happy with it. Stasis customers also seem to be happy with their tunes.

There are already a couple threads on this.

[Newspyderv10man]

I am on the fence with a tune.

I cant seem to get good information from Stasis.

I wonder if this is snake oil.

Stasis is $2400 for +27 HP which is hardly noticable.

APR is $1495 for +50 HP.

I dont get it? How could APR offer so much more in their Flash for such a reduced price? Something is amiss here.

I think I will just sit this out and let the dynos come out and the prices level out.

Remember, AUDI does not guaranty Stasis products (or APR). Stasis kind of does a sleight of hand and says they work with Audi and its under warranty.

Stasis has their own warranty for 4yrs/50,000.

The way they posture their answer if one isnt aware is that Stasis parts are warranteed by Audi. They are a bit too sly for me in their information and answers. I dont think I will deal with Stasis on the EUC Flash, esp at their sky high off the charts pricing vs APR.

[marcuslf]

APR only only claims ~50hp on a 93 octane tune, Stasis just says 93 octane will be higher. At 91 octane, their gains are pretty similar, so I'm guessing (but it's only a guess) that they're close at 93 as well.

[thebishman]

Many people believe that the Stasis tune is a re-canned APR tune. You're paying more for the Stasis/Audi warranty tie-in.
Bish

[ajag]

I got about 30 AWHP w/ Stasis ECU/Exhaust. Can definitely feel the difference above 5k, low RPMs no difference really. Here is the link to my post in the dyno thread.

Dyno Runs - Post your results

[Newspyderv10man]

I got my Porsche 997 Turbo tuned locally in FL,, FVD Brombacher and immediately it was 18% more powerful.

The difference was incredible in Sport Mode.

The cost was $1800.

I think I got 60+ HP out of FVD's tune.

To pay $2,500 for 27 HP is unnerving to me.

And to think Stasis uses the APR ($1499) chip technology is uncanny.

Things will change in time so I am not rushing into spending my hard earned bucks quite yet.

[M3R8]

Turbo cars tend to be easier tunes.

[Europrice]

If you purchase STaSIS items through dealerships (Signature Series) you receive full warranty coverage. So as for something like a tune, if you go with aftermarket not through a dealership and you have a motor failure. The dealership attributes the failure to the aftermarket tune you are on the hook for a motor. If you have a STaSIS tune and do in a motor, dealership says the tune caused the issue, the new motor is covered by warranty. That's the reason for the higher pricing when looking at items through a dealership.

Cheers,

[willyjp]

If you purchase STaSIS items through dealerships (Signature Series) you receive full warranty coverage. So as for something like a tune, if you go with aftermarket not through a dealership and you have a motor failure. The dealership attributes the failure to the aftermarket tune you are on the hook for a motor. If you have a STaSIS tune and do in a motor, dealership says the tune caused the issue, the new motor is covered by warranty. That's the reason for the higher pricing when looking at items through a dealership.

Cheers,

Perfectly understandable if it works as advertised.

It would be very interesting to hear from any STASIS owners who've actually had a problem. If, in practice, they've had good or bad experiences with this STASIS/Audi "joint" warranty process. Does "buck passing" occur or does somebody step up and take care of your problem?