Stasis Supercharger Oil Blow-by Issues

[Dr. R8]

A customer's V10 R8 came in today with a STaSIS Supercharger kit installed. He brought it in stating that the car just doesn't feel like it has any balls anymore. Upon initial inspection, I noticed that there is some serious seepage/oil blow-by coming through in between the supercharger and decklid (intake manifold), which is in the pressure side of the screws in the supercharger. This would be the culprit of the car not feeling up-to-par and as a result of way too much pressure for the tiny o-ring that is used by Stasis. After letting the customer know about this, he stated that the o-ring has already been replaced once before, just a short time ago (~4500 miles). I'd assume that this is a known issue? Any others experiencing similar problems? Is this something that should be added to the routine maintenance list?







Also noticed that the car has a pretty wicked belt squeal. The customer told me that he is sometimes embarrassed to drive his 200,000$ car around because Stasis can't seem to get their act together on a sufficient belt for the setup. I know a couple locals who work at Stasis Audi dealerships and the tech's joke around by saying that it is the "Stasis squeal". Any other's have issues with this, too? Just wanted to see if there is anyone else experiencing these issues. Thanks!

[Moggy]

Also noticed that the car has a pretty wicked belt squeal. The customer told me that he is sometimes embarrassed to drive his 200,000$ car around because Stasis can't seem to get their act together on a sufficient belt for the setup. I know a couple locals who work at Stasis Audi dealerships and the tech's joke around by saying that it is the "Stasis squeal". Any other's have issues with this, too? Just wanted to see if there is anyone else experiencing these issues. Thanks!

Mine does when it's cold. Since the cold snap, I've noticed a very loud squeal when I first get the car going in the morning. Stops very quickly. Looks like it's only really happening when the belt/pulley temperature is below 50F.

I'm assuming that this will go away once Stasis come up with the 7 groove belt to match the pulleys. I got a note from Stasis last week about an update kit going out early next year and I'm hoping that this will include the new belt.

Not noticed any oil weeping on my kit, but will have a look later today.

[Dr. R8]

Mine does when it's cold. Since the cold snap, I've noticed a very loud squeal when I first get the car going in the morning. Stops very quickly. Looks like it's only really happening when the belt/pulley temperature is below 50F.

I'm assuming that this will go away once Stasis come up with the 7 groove belt to match the pulleys. I got a note from Stasis last week about an update kit going out early next year and I'm hoping that this will include the new belt.

Not noticed any oil weeping on my kit, but will have a look later today.

I am honestly surprised that a company like Stasis is lacking on things like these, especially considering the cost and prestige of a kit such as this. And worse, V10 Supercharger customers don't seem to be raising serious concerns and demanding fixes. Disappointing.

[desperado]

I have not experienced either of these problems with my STaSIS supercharged R8 V8. Since the amount of boost is the same in both the V8 and V10, I wonder why the belt or the o-ring would see any more stress on a V10 compared to a V8.

I am very interested to hear if the weeping o-ring is responsible for the perceived power loss, or if there is something else causing it.

[Dr. R8]

I am very interested to hear if the weeping o-ring is responsible for the power loss, or if there is something else causing it.

The leak is on the pressure side of the setup, so it is leaking boost through the o-ring/gasket. It is leaking pretty bad at idle (only 1-2psi at idle), so I could only imagine what it's doing higher in the RPM range when more boost is generated. A boost leak will MOST DEFINITELY be responsible for power loss.

The customer is telling me that he's had his car in for this sort of stuff 3 different times in the last 4 months. Squeals, exhaust drone, and now this... It is GREAT for people like me as I enjoy the business that these issues are generating for sure, but I thought this was a worry free kit? Especially with its price tag. What's great about the R8 is they are a daily drive-able "exotic", but with this Stasis kit it's no longer something that you can drive on a daily basis.

[Europrice]

Interesting, not great to hear or see, but I am curious what shop the car is at now? I am surprised that there are enough V10 kits out there that multiple techs you know at different locations all have a name for a problem such as the belt squeak (which I have not heard of on a V8 setup ever). It's also curious that you state no owners are asking for a fix but that STaSIS has been in contact with an owner here who just posted with an update kit. Sorry if I am skeptical, but there has been a rash of anti-STaSIS posts on forums lately because of their ongoing lawsuit against the Eurojet employees who left en masse a few months ago.

If there were serious issues with the V10 product I suspect you'd see some of the guys here making noise about it. The fact alone that STaSIS has been working on an update kit means that there is a known issue, though they are addressing it. That doesn't sound like V10 owners haven't asked for assistance.

A little more information would go a long way with posts like this.

[Dr. R8]

Interesting, not great to hear or see, but I am curious what shop the car is at now? I am surprised that there are enough V10 kits out there that multiple techs you know at different locations all have a name for a problem such as the belt squeak (which I have not heard of on a V8 setup ever). It's also curious that you state no owners are asking for a fix but that STaSIS has been in contact with an owner here who just posted with an update kit. Sorry if I am skeptical, but there has been a rash of anti-STaSIS posts on forums lately because of their ongoing lawsuit against the Eurojet employees who left en masse a few months ago.

If there were serious issues with the V10 product I suspect you'd see some of the guys here making noise about it. The fact alone that STaSIS has been working on an update kit means that there is a known issue, though they are addressing it. That doesn't sound like V10 owners haven't asked for assistance.

A little more information would go a long way with posts like this.

Thanks for the feedback. I am by no means trying to attack anyone, but just seeing if anyone else has had any issues similar to this V10. That is the exact purpose of this thread. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry if I'm offending anyone...

[Europrice]

Again, information goes a long way. What shop do you work with? It sounds like you have an independent shop since you mentioned it's great for you to get the work. Why would the customer be coming to an independent shop to get repairs done if it's fully warrantied at a dealership?

I just find it interesting how it's your first few posts ever here and you mention a slew of issues with this car, but the info is fairly incomplete and you toss in comments about how many techs you know who have a name for a common issue on a very uncommon car. I mean how many of these kits are there out there, 15-20 around the US, if that? Just doesn't sound genuine in my opinion. Nothing you've said offends me, but the lack of details just makes it all seem like another one of these "STaSIS products suck, they are evil, they eat babies" posts which is being presented albeit in a slightly gentler way, though you did just edit your post to give a few extra jabs at STaSIS. I could be totally wrong and this could be genuine, but why not some details on your shop, the car, etc.

I don't know exact specs on the V10 charger, but really unlikely making 1-2psi of boost at idle, so it can't be leaking boost at idle. Surely in upper rpm's if that seal is on the pressure side of things it would leak boost and cause power to be down. It could also lead to a vacuum leak which would cause idle running problems, if the leak is as bad as you say it is.

Also interesting how you altered your post and now take a stand that the kit is ruining the daily drivability of the car. Unless you have more information to present I'd take this with a big grain of salt and we'll let other V10 owners with this kit speak for themselves.

[RS4Cab]

What's great about the R8 is they are a daily drive-able "exotic", but with this Stasis kit it's no longer something that you can drive on a daily basis.

So my car is no longer something I can drive on a daily basis? that's news to me since I have been doing that for over a year now. Have never seen any sign of oil weeping and I think belt has squealed 3 times in the couple thousand times I have started. And that was on cold startups when I was giving it to much gas, I stopped doing that and has not squealed since. Have seen these attacks on Stasis on other forums and as of right now i'm looking at your post as nothing more than that

[Dr. R8]

Again, information goes a long way. What shop do you work with? It sounds like you have an independent shop since you mentioned it's great for you to get the work. Why would the customer be coming to an independent shop to get repairs done if it's fully warrantied at a dealership?

I just find it interesting how it's your first few posts ever here and you mention a slew of issues with this car, but the info is fairly incomplete and you toss in comments about how many techs you know who have a name for a common issue on a very uncommon car. I mean how many of these kits are there out there, 15-20 around the US, if that? Just doesn't sound genuine in my opinion. Nothing you've said offends me, but the lack of details just makes it all seem like another one of these "STaSIS products suck, they are evil, they eat babies" posts which is being presented albeit in a slightly gentler way, though you did just edit your post to give a few extra jabs at STaSIS. I could be totally wrong and this could be genuine, but why not some details on your shop, the car, etc.

I don't know exact specs on the V10 charger, but really unlikely making 1-2psi of boost at idle, so it can't be leaking boost at idle. Surely in upper rpm's if that seal is on the pressure side of things it would leak boost and cause power to be down. It could also lead to a vacuum leak which would cause idle running problems, if the leak is as bad as you say it is.

Also interesting how you altered your post and now take a stand that the kit is ruining the daily drivability of the car. Unless you have more information to present I'd take this with a big grain of salt and we'll let other V10 owners with this kit speak for themselves.

Why am I being called out? And why do I have to disclose my customer's information? How is ANY of that relevant to the problems I'm seeing on this car? I didn't know there was some sort of validation process that I had to go through to participate in discussion forums.

I don't give two shakes what issues Stasis is having with other companies, all I asked was if other owner's were having these issues. How do any of your points pertain to anything that I'm asking here?

If you don't understand how this blower is making boost at idle then you don't understand Superchargers at all, especially one that is moving 1900cfm of air with each revolution. If the car is at idle, I can spray water on the seals and see bubbles. What does that tell me? That the gasket or seal is too small.

So, I see the problems and I call a buddy at Wilmington and I ask a few questions. He said that the squeal is normal on these kits and it happens on a convertible that they regularly service…I'm guessing it's the one up for sale now.

I don't know how many kits are out there, nor is it important with regard to getting this customer's issues taken care of. If you haven't seen this issue or have anything to add in regards to a solution, then please move on. I'm just looking to find a permanent solution to a reoccurring issue.