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2009 audi R8 or c7 corvette z?

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#1 ·
Hi guys I'm new to the forum, seems it's a pretty big community here for R8's.

I was set on buying a brand new corvette either z51 or z06 when it came out but recently I drove around a good friend of mines new audi r8 gt convert for the week and I really liked it. I just recently got the chance to buy a 09 audi r8 with only about 3-4k miles on it for a good price and it's a manual with black on black very clean well taken care of car. I was wondering what your guys opinion was on it sense it's the v8 model and not the v10. My last car was a 09 corvette which I bought new and supercharged it to make 700hp daily driver. Though I sold it in 2012 and have a porsche cayenne turbo s now as a daily. I was thinking if I bought it I would supercharge it or turbo it eventually. Also keep In mind I'm 22 years old and travel from state to state for about 3 months at a time for work. Thanks!
 
#3 ·
I shy away from cars with that low of miles and that old. The car is barely broken in and WAY out of warranty. If you buy it...get the warranty.

i wouldn't buy an 09 with any less than 10-12k miles.
coming from 700hp...your gonna be dissapointed in the v8 ( IMO)

pass on the z51.....but the z06....tempting. Great bang for the buck.
 
#6 ·
Because it's super common for issues to pop up in the first 5-10K miles. 3K miles in 5 years means is has spent most of its time sitting and not much chance for any problems to show their face. Could be totally fine, but I'd much rather have the same car at 10K miles for an even lower price.

That said, I wouldn't get a 09 V8. Yes, it's cooler than the C7 and rarer, but objectively it's not better. In fact, performance is quite possibly a lot worse than a high-spec C7. And when the $100K Z06 comes out in a year, it's going to make the R8 look like a Civic in the performance department.

The V8 was a great car 5 year ago. Not so much now.
 
#5 ·
I'd go for the R8 now and put a deposit down for the Z06! The deposits are refundable. That Z06 is going to be a beast! I'm thinking of putting a deposit on that or potentially the Acura NSX when they begin to take them and release the final production version. The R8 is a great daily driver though, I've put nearly 40k miles on mine and it's extremely comfortable for long drives although limited trunk space makes it hard to travel longer than a weekend. What part of AZ are you in? I'm also 22 and thinking of moving to Scottsdale…good choice??
 
#8 ·
C7 is very nice and beast on track. Comfy too, with lots of value and gadgets. But get used to the idea of paint drips on you door. Straight from the factory. Lots of build-quality problems. I'd give them another year to figure out how to build them right.
 
#16 ·
I'm sure the new Z06 will be a performance beast. But a big question mark for the build quality. I used to own the C6 Z06. It was a beast back then and allways brought a smile to my face. But after a few high speed runs on the Autobahn side marking lights came loose and fell off. Brake rotors cracked. Interior was low on quality. The R8 is in another league when it comes to quality even though its lower on performance.
 
#18 ·
Z06 no question. The c7z is a beast. I bought the R8 to hold me over until I can get into a used c7z.

I came from a c6z and a little disappointed in the R8 performance wise. But you can't beat the R8 looks wise.
 
#20 ·
I'd get the R8. Even though the new Vette is nice, and very powerful (of course), I feel it's just way more common than an R8. The vette won't turn many heads - except for those who love vettes. The R8 will turn heads of little old ladies (as I've posted about here to my surprise!).

I'd also pass on the V8 and go straight for the V10. Personally, I think Audi should have never made the V8. I think they did it for a few reasons - including the readily available RS4 engine, which limited investment in a new powerplant, and trying to tread lightly into a market where they didn't know if they'd be successful... potentially while also not stepping on the toes of their Lambo sister. But for all the praise the R8 got at launch - for styling, handling, luxury, usability, etc - it only had a luke-warm reception regarding power. The V8 powerplant will make the car quick and fun but not flat-out fast as the car's looks would imply. All of that said, it's a big step-up in price, so it's more a matter of whether your wallet will be OK with it. I think you'd be very underwhelmed, though, coming from a 700hp car.

I also agree with the comments about an 09 with 3 - 4k miles. Mileage is very low for a car of that age, which could spell some trouble... but if you found the right car, I wouldn't let this fact alone deter you. Some people legitimately just don't drive these things. They own 3, 4, 5, or 10 nice cars, and each only sees a bit of action each year. In the world of Ferraris, 3 - 4k on an 09 wouldn't be unusual, though. More importantly, I'd look at the service records to see how the car was maintained - minimum annual service regardless of miles, making sure it didn't just sit for several years without being driven or serviced, etc.

So, bottom line - I'd buy the R8 and not look back. The vette will be another vette no matter how "nice." The R8 will be an exotic head-turner with a great balance of luxury, power, and handling. I think if you're looking to do burn-outs, drag races, and have bar arguments about who's car has the best paper specs - maybe the vette is the way to go. But if you're looking for something more refined, much less common, and offering a very balanced approach to power, handling, and control - the R8 is the clear winner. And again, get the V10. :) There's something really magical about the sound the V10 makes, revving up to 9k RPMs behind your head, that the vette won't give you either.
 
#21 ·
I have both... My v-10 is awesome but the vette can spin the tires going 60 MPH with a downshift.... They are too different to say what I like better....

I daily drive the R8 and the vette gets less love but man is it a beast.... CHOICES CHOICES!!!!
 
#22 ·
I have owned multiple Corvettes in the past and won't ever own another one again. They are cheaply made cars with good performance numbers, but a dime a dozen on the street. Corvettes may have wonderful performance numbers, but they are simply too ubiquitous. I see them everywhere and they simply aren't anything special to look at IMHO. I won't even turn my head to look at one! No matter what, the R8 is a very special beast and there are relatively few out there, so you will be driving a much rarer car that turns heads! As far as performance is concerned, the R8 is plenty fast for the street. If you plan to mod it with either Turbo or Supercharging...you will have a very special beast indeed. This is coming from a Ferrari owner.

I think you are making the right decision buying the right car. Get a good deal on a low mileage car. I have always followed that formula and have never had the kind of problems I have read on this thread with low mileage 5 year old cars. Heck, just look at the Ford GT...all of them are now 8-9 years old low mileage cars...no problems other than regular maintenance issues.
 
#23 ·
Also bought a brand new Corvette C6 when it was launched, trade in my Porsche 997 Carrera, the biggest misstake of my life, if I would ever to trade in my R8 to a vette it would be if forced at gunpoint
 
#24 ·
Having owned a C5 vert ... It was an extremely fun car. 3300 or so lbs, 50/50 weight balance, RWD, and 315 HP. This car brand new was 55K. A reasonable price that a lot of people could afford. When the Corvettes breached the 100K mark (ZO6/ZR1) ... That is where the Corvettes are competing with too many NICER cars.
 
#25 ·
Lots of useful info here.

I'm in the same debate right now. A low mileage v8 R8 or a C7 either z51 or z06.

The new C7 has apparently upped its game when it comes to quality of build, quality of materials used inside (3LT package at least) and just upped its game in the whole car. That said, they will still loose their value quicker then the used r8 you're looking at, much quicker. That's a factor for me as well. in a year or 2 when I want to move on, that 80k vette will be worth 45-50 at best while that 100k used r8 will likely be worth 90-95. In the past year the r8s really haven't moved in price at all up here in Canada. Not just locally, Canada wide. so its a tough decision.

For me the right move might be used r8 right now, drive it for a year or 2 until I find the right used C7 (z51 or likely z06) that someone else has taken that huge initial hit on.

With an 09, high or low mileage, Id say a warranty is a must
 
#26 ·
There are available allocations today for M7 versions of the Z06 at MSRP, although there some other constraints at times on various options. Demand will be huge for the A8 version which is what I'm holding out for; orders supposed to being processed for that car beginning 12/8/14. Apparently a 70%-80% take rate on the A8 version.

BTW, if you haven't sat in or ridden in a C7 version Stingray, you might want to hold back a little re: how poorly the interior is assembled; it blows away previous versions.

In about 12-18 months you'll be able to purchase a new one with a large discount from MSRP.

Bish
 
#27 ·
So, interesting sales stats that show how "common" a Corvette is here in the US compared to an R8...

Since the R8 began production, there have been 6,018 sold in the United States. In the same time period, there have been 160,710 Corvettes sold in the US. That's nearly 27 Corvettes for every 1 R8. Now, add all of the previous years of Corvettes, and you're probably looking at something that's 100's to 1 on the road, highlighting just how special the R8 is in comparison (rarity wise).

The new C7 has upped the game in build quality from what I can tell, but it's still lacking when compared to German competitors in this price segment. The R8 is also a considerably more expensive car, so maybe it's unfair to compare the quality of a depreciated model compared to a new Corvette.

As I've said in the past, performance specs are great, but most of it is unusable power on the street. After a certain "threshold" of power, the weighting of that excess power in your buying decision should really be close to zero. What's the difference between a 600hp car and 750hp car on the street? None - you can't use either one to their potential. So, if I were comparing the two hypothetical cars, I'd be looking much more closely at build quality, design, emotional appeal, handling, luxury, etc. This is where I feel the Corvette doesn't hold a candle to the R8. Park the two side by side, and 9/10 random people will probably flock to the R8.

I'd go with the V10 R8 - it's a fantastic sounding, high-revving, and more exotic engine. The rarity of the R8 compared to the Vette will, alone, make it more interesting... but I personally think the design is far-and-above more refined and special. The mid-engine layout, with the engine visible under glass, isn't something you see on the road every day - much more special than your typical front-engine sports car. The quattro AWD system makes the R8 handle incredibly well while still preserving a bit of tail-happy nature with a RWD bias.

I don't want to sound disparaging to the Vette, either. It's an incredible value - if the R8 is a "value" in its class, a "baby" supercar, then the Vette is truly an exceptional buy when it comes to $$/HP and what you get performance-wise. And if that's pretty much where your criteria starts and stops, then look no further. But if you're looking for refinement, something more exotic, higher-end luxury, stop-and-stare power, etc... the R8 all day, every day.
 
#28 ·
I have been siting here reading this interesting thread - and where I have never owned a corvette, and I do not plan too, The thought of trading my beloved R8 for a car as common as a corvette makes me sick - the fun of buying the latest and greatest American sports car might seem great, but I feel just a year down the road, the regret would set in.