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DIY Oil Change: R8 V8

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Step-by-step instructions with pictures

Audi recommends changing the engine oil in the R8 only every 10,000 miles (approx. 15,000 km) except for the initial oil change at 5,000 miles. I prefer to change it more frequently than that. For one, I track my car a lot, which does stress the engine. But also, some mechanic friends of mine say that even the best filters can’t keep the small dirt particles out for that length of time, and dirt causes engine wear. I’ve been changing the oil in all my cars for around 4,000 miles. I’ve tracked my NSX hard for about six years; it’s got 140,000 miles on it, and the original engine still runs flawlessly. So, I’ve decided to change the R8’s oil every 5,000 miles. I’ll have to change it once between each scheduled service. It shouldn’t be too harsh, right?

Wrong. The R8 has a dry sump engine, so there's no deep oil pan with a single drain plug. There are three drain plugs in the machine and another in the big oil reservoir, and you have to remove the large plastic noise/aero covers under the car to access it all. You need some special tools to do it correctly. I just changed it for the first time, and it was by far the most challenging oil change I’ve ever done. Here are some notes and pictures to help you if you decide to take this on.

R8 Oil and Oil Filter Change


What parts do I need?
  1. New filter element, Audi part 079-198-405-B, USD 23.47 recently for me at the dealer.
  2. 10 Liters (or 10.6 quarts) of oil. It needs to meet VW502 spec. Audi has published a list of approved oils, which is very long. There are many oils that meet the spec that does not say so on the bottle, including Mobil 1. Here is a link to Audi’s list: https://www.audiusa.com/content/dam/audiusa/Documents/Audi-1997-2016-Technical-Service-Bulletin.pdf

What tools do I need?
  1. 32 MM socket to remove the oil filter cover.
  2. T-30 Torx tool to remove the screws holding on the plastic noise/aero covers under the car.
  3. 8 MM triple square drive tool to remove three plugs from the oil pan. I have an XZN socket set, and this tool is labelled XZN8M. You can remove 2 of the three oil pan plugs using this standard 8 MM tool. To pull the 3rd plug, you need a unique Audi/VW tool, T40159. See more info on this tool later in this thread.
  4. 12 MM triple square drive tool to remove the plug from the oil reservoir, XZN12M. Alternatively, you can use an 18 MM socket, but it’s more challenging because it’s bigger, and there is not much room for it due to the hydraulic clutch line going into the transmission.
  5. A small torque wrench if you want to be sure to re-tighten the plugs to the exact proper tightness.
  6. Ramps or a lift or maybe jack stands to lift the car.
  7. A large pan to drain the oil into.
  8. Oil-proof gloves and a lot of paper towels.

Changing the Filter

This is the easy part. Lift the engine cover, and remove the small center trim piece that says “V8 FSI” by lifting it straight up. Use a big 32 MM socket on an extension to unscrew the filter cover.

The filter canister automatically drains when you remove the filter but have some paper towels ready because the filter drips oil as you remove it. First, yank the old one out of the cap to replace the filter element. Then remove and replace the big o-ring (#2 in the picture) on the lid. Clean the sealing surfaces on the cap and canister, careful not to let any gunk get into the canister. Lubricate the new o-ring with some oil. Insert the new filter into the canister (not into the cap!), turning it until that bottom outlet and o-ring (#4 in the picture) goes into the matching hole in the canister. Press it down firmly. Then screw on the cover until it seats firmly. That’s all.



Changing the Oil

The service manual instructs the engine to be at “operating temperature” before changing the oil. So, run the engine until the oil temperature rises to normal. Don’t you just love working on a hot machine?

Next, get the car off the ground but still be near-level. I have a slight hill in my driveway, so I backed the car up on ramps, and it worked acceptably. A lift would be better as there is little room under the oil pan. Next, use the T-30 Torx tool to remove the 2 (#1 and #2 below) air scoops and the entire rear noise cover (#3). The service manual says to also remove the front nose cover (#4), but you don’t need to; it’s sufficient to remove just the five closest screws on it and pull the edge down a bit when needed. Remember to keep track of where you removed which screws; some have shoulders, others have special washers, others have thread-locking compound, and the rest are plain. Also, note that the two scoops are different from each other and must later be remounted in the proper location. Lots of fun!



Also, you should remove the oil fill cap before draining the oil, so there is good airflow in to allow the oil to flow out quickly.

So at this point, you would see something like this:


Now it’s time to drain the engine oil. There are three drain plugs on the oil pan, clearly marked with large arrows:


Use the 8MM triple square drive tool to remove the plugs and drain the oil. Just position a large catch pan under the plug, grab some paper towels, and have at it. Be careful not to lose those special copper washers on the pins. There are about 4 litres of oil in the engine itself. This is where I ran into a problem. There is very little room for the tool on the one plug close to that red frame member. It’s so close that my socket-type 8MM tool would not work. To get that plug out, you need just the right unique tool. The Audi service manual says to use Socket T40159. So for my first oil change, I didn’t remove that 3rd plug. Later, when I refilled the car with oil, it still took the full 10 litres to fill it, so apparently, there is not a lot of oil left once you drain the engine using only the other two plugs. Afterward, I checked with my local Audi R8 technician, who pointed me to the proper tool. SEE THE T40159 TOOL INFO LATER IN THIS THREAD. When you replace the plugs, don’t over-tighten them. They were not tight; the service manual specifies 20Nm = 14 ft-lbs.

Now drain the oil from the oil reservoir tank. It’s the aluminum tank between the transmission and the left rear wheel above the starter motor:


WARNING – you strike the mother lode of oil when you remove that plug! About 6 litres come gushing out very quickly. Make sure your catch pan is empty and big enough to hold it all and get ready to have your hand covered with (hot) oil. Latex or Nitrile gloves are recommended. Use the 12MM triple square drive tool or an 18MM standard socket. Go for it! Retighten the plug to only 22Nm = 15 ft-lbs.

OK, time to clean up a bit. Grab some soapy cleaner spray, and clean up the clutch line and the giant ground wire from the starter motor covered with oil under the reservoir. Also, clean the bottom of the oil pan. It should look at least as clean as it was when you got there.

Now you’re ready to button it up. As they say, installation is the reverse of removal. Replace all the covers and screws (you kept track of where the special ones went, right?) and scoops.

Up on the top side, pour 10 litres (or 10.6 quarts) of oil into the oil fill location under the oil cap. Start the car and let it warm until the oil temp needle is horizontal (average operating temperature). Then turn off the car and wait 2 minutes. Then check the oil level using the dipstick next to the oil cap. It should be in the “do not add” range; if not, add more until it is. The car should be level when you do this.

That’s it. A nice feeling – happy car, happy driver.

mt

Here's a link to a Microsoft Word format document with this info (441 KB).
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I'd feel a little uneasy working under that lift. It's probably fine for storage.

I got a Bend Pak HD9 which works well for under 3k. I later added an air jack to raise the front or back for wheel/brake/exhaust work. At first I used it unbolted and you can get casters if you think you will need to move it around. But, even with a heavy duty 4 post lift, you can wobble the car around when it is up. Now that I have it bolted down it feels very sturdy and safe.

http://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/four-post-lifts/HD-9.aspx
Rob,
How much height is required to get your R8 on your lift? What brand is it and how much did it cost?

Thanks in advance.
It was just a touch more than 3000 CAD taxes all in, picked up from the distributor in Montreal, QC. I have a truck and trailer and could pick it up myself. All the specs and sizes for it can be found here:

http://www.directlift.com/Pro-Park-8S-Standard-Four-Post-Lift-P44C9.aspx

A whopping 2100 USD for you guys in the States.

This page tells you if the lift will fit in your garage with your cars:

http://www.directlift.biz/required-ceiling-height-Pro-Park-8S.html
looks very similar to the procedure for changing the oil in my BMW motorcycle. good write up.
used this when changing oil on my car for the first time this weekend. Just wanted to say thanks.
I updated the thread title for clarity.

Also, contrary to my statement earlier in this thread, my dealer does use Castrol in the R8. It is just their oil delivery system which has Mobil 1 printed all over it because the dealership's owner, a sponsor of race teams, has a major Mobil 1 sponsorship!
Another Fact, I paid almost 50 dollars for the oil filter! The dealer told me it was because the filter is unique to the R8? I paid 9 dollars a litre (liter: US) for the oil.

That has to be just from dealer markup. The same filter is used on V8 S5's, and V8 A6's after 2008 (I believe V8 Q7's as well).

You are better off getting your filters through an OEM parts retailer. Here in the US, I would recommend germanautoparts.com if you are on the east coast, ecstuning.com if in the midwest, and genuineaudiparts.com if out west (there are many others).
Fantastic post. Thanks for sharing!
I can suggest also to check if tube of reserve tank oil have leaks like showed in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7jDaGjcTE . The solution is to replace inside o-ring or fix it adding black paste for oil leaks and you will see solve this problem.
Cheers Tiziano
What is it costing everyone for DIY oil change price?
I have two lifts in my garage mostly for storage purposes and I enjoy working on my cars but for $200. at my local Audi shop with a real good tech. that is the only one allowed to work on R8's I say "no thanks, have at it"
Just read the thread, boy it acutally looks easy especailly since i have a 4 post lift and i recently took the rear lower engine plastic cover off just to look and clean. Surprised to see everyone think it a difficult job, only issues i see is knowing what oil to use and how much for the V10.

Plan to gather everything for and oil change and we write back.
Great DIY writeup! Many thanks. I noted earlier in the thread that the service manual says not to use an oil extractor from the dipstick port. Does anyone know if it will cause any damage, or is it saying that just because you won't extract all of the oil (how much would it extract?)? The reason I'm asking is I live in Canada and do not put many miles on the vehicle each year. I was thinking of changing the filter and oil using an oil extractor before winter storage (IE. an "almost all oil" change) and doing a proper full oil change at the mileage service intervals.
Does the extractor cause damage? Is this a bad plan!?
Great DIY writeup! Many thanks. I noted earlier in the thread that the service manual says not to use an oil extractor from the dipstick port. Does anyone know if it will cause any damage, or is it saying that just because you won't extract all of the oil (how much would it extract?)? The reason I'm asking is I live in Canada and do not put many miles on the vehicle each year. I was thinking of changing the filter and oil using an oil extractor before winter storage (IE. an "almost all oil" change) and doing a proper full oil change at the mileage service intervals.
Does the extractor cause damage? Is this a bad plan!?
It doesn't cause damage but it won't get all the oil. Being dry sump the R8 holds the bulk of the oil in a tank (what the dipstick measures) as well as a fair amount of residual oil in the sump(s) and oil pump when the car is not running. You can extract the oil from the tank through the dipstick but you won't be getting everything in the sump(s) and pump.
Hey Gang, getting ready to change my oil on the R8 V8. Has anyone been able to access the close-quarter drain plug without using the T40159 tool?

Jeff
Sorry Jeff, can't answer your question - but did want to provide the following service bulletin on approved motor oils:

https://www.audiusa.com/content/dam/audiusa/Documents/Audi-1997-2016-Technical-Service-Bulletin.pdf
Anyone know where to get the T40159? The link at the beginning of the thread now goes to a login page. I did find it online for $75.
Hey Gang

Just want to thank the author for this post. While I have a v8 it is basically the same procedure.

One suggestion. For the last drain plug by starter I stuffed a rang by the fitting and over the frame rail and cable . Worked great. It actually created a nice "funnel" effect as the oil flowed off the rag into the bucket.

I did take both pans off as I wanted to see what the under carriage looked like plus to clean everything.

Managed to get all the fasteners back in the right holes except for 1 of the fasteners with a shoulder below the head.

This was my first time changing the R8 oil. I have an '08 with only 4800 miles on it. The oil was changed for me when I bought the car 5 years ago with only 680 miles on it Figured despite the miles it was time. Took about 3.5 hours but I was taking my time, cleaning, checking things out etc. Without doubt the longest part was r&r of the belly pans.

The special audi tool T40159 for the one drain plug up against the frame rail was invaluable. Worked great!

Thanks again!

Jeff
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Great Info.. I do everything myself (building race cars, making my own parts, engine swaps etc), but tempted to have Audi do this lol.
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Hey Gang, getting ready to change my oil on the R8 V8. Has anyone been able to access the close-quarter drain plug without using the T40159 tool?

Jeff
Here is my special tool - cost just a few dollars and a few min of time:
Use a cut off wheel and cut an XZN bit so that it is just long enough so the other end fits a closed end wrench (an 8mm wrench fit perfectly on the XZN I used)
Auto part Wheel


Put the bit in the wrench then insert in the drain plug... done. worked perfectly
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