I actually did watch normalsportsguys videos and that was what kind of put the f430 on the table for me. His ownership discussion really had me thinking and I am definitely hands on with all of my cars. This would be my first supercar but not german sports car so I am at least familiar with some of the pay to play aspects of doing your own tinkering. As I said to EZ in my mind I know the r8 is really the choice for me. I unfortunately have a window of when I am purchasing so all this idle time is making me second guess so figured I would poll for some input on the matter. Thanks for yours!If you are in an area that snows and have little experience owning supercars I would really suggest getting an r8. If long distance cruising and going out with wife is a foreseeable activity definitely get the R8 haha. There's a reason why r8 is such a good entry into supercars, reliable, dependable, lots of service centers everywhere, lotta shared parts with audi and VW etc.,quattro makes it easier in bad weather conditions, comfortable ride with a good sound system, pretty affordable since it's almost fully depreciated, looks great sounds good looks exotic, u cant go wrong. There will be times when you wish u are in a ferrari, but that doesnt happen very often, r8 got most of your needs covered. You can always save up later and be a bit adventurous with ferraris. You must be attracted to the f430 subconsciously (like I am), but u must be ready (be close to a dealer, know a good/dependable/honest Ferrari mechanic nearby, financially stashed away for repairs, willing to give up a lot of comfort/ease and know what these cars are about. I wouldnt say it's as raw as say a lotus, but it's definitely more focused and analogue). Like many have mentioned, u get a lot more feel and more dynamic experience driving the f430, and that's partly because the car feels like it's 2 decades old. That is not necessarily a bad thing, since u cant get cars like that anymore so it's like a time capsule, but just make sure that's what you want.If you are looking for a ferrari replacement more similar to the r8, the 458 would be the one to go. Performance wise, the r8 feels faster because of the torque for anything under 120. But as you get faster the weight advantage starts to kick in and I believe they are very similar. The 458 is a tad faster than both.The r8 has more grip but more understeer, the f430s are more playful as the stability system supposedly allow u to have a bit fun in race mode. The 360 and challenge stradale system is even more scary if you dont know what you are doing lol. In terms of engine/exhaust sound I I would leans a tiny bit towards the f430/scud, mostly due to the low end. The v10 is one of the best sounds ever I think but at the low end it doesnt have quite the variation and organic quality of the f430 engine. And I agree they are very different cars, prob not many would cross shop them other than the similar price tag. While the f430 doesnt have a lot of catastrophic failures and are very reliable as far as ferrari goes, they do have many small issues that are hit and miss. I personally had a lot of issues on my f430 spider, some minor ones on the 458 and scud, and had friend's who had 30k of repairs in the first year of ownership (all covered under dealer extended warranty, but is enough to scare him to sell it and save for a 458). Check out normalguysupercar's journey on youtube, he showed all his issues on the f430 and 458 throughout his past 3 years of ownership. If you wrench cars yourself you might be more ready to take on such cars as the first supercar.