You want mag ride.
It is the one thing that I miss from my Gen 1 cars that's not in my present one.

If you get lucky and find one with ceramics, you'll never have to change the rotors and pads will last as long as you have the car as long as you don't track it.

Steel rotors last very well for daily driving 50k or so isn't out of the question. Pads vary.

Find someone other than Audi to do oil changes. Most euro style shops should be capable for less $$

And not trying to be rude but since you capitalized it I have to call you out. A lot is two words... very common mistake that drives me nuts.

 

if u don't track the car... I think v10 is good enough.

v10+ don't use mag suspension. if u do lots of DD. v10 is more than enough... mag ride makes the car really comfy. when when you want to push the car... u have the option to stiffen the ride.

I'm happy with my v10... I always tell people I hv butter ass car...

I have driven the 650s before... geez... British* made car are not known for good build quality. the interior rattles!!

*had similar experience from both mcl and lotus...

 

I am 6'3 own a first gen V10 and have a lot of space. I recommend you to seat on normal seats and bucket seats.. for me even though I love the bucket seats look it felt too tight on the ass and legs so I took the decision to go for normal seats ( which ones I don't like the look at all [emoji3])

1- normal service I pay 1.600usd Audi dealer in Sweden

2- there are a lot of topics here about wings and quality built

3- I have a normal V10 with Capristo exhaust, I don't track my car and I am VERY pleased with the power
A good exhaust system is a must!

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If the R8 is less tight financially for you, I think you should go that route.

The greatest car quickly becomes your worst enemy when your situation changes unexpectedly (anything from a major repair, to a job crisis, to something else you unexpectedly have to lay out for, and then suddenly you are strapped).

If you know you would love both, get the less expensive one. Invest the remainder - which should double in value twice by the time you are 55. Do the math on what that amount would be, and ask yourself if you would be willing to receive that amount for choosing the "lesser" car. I bet the answer is yes.

 

Either car would be great, but the $% difference from the McLaren to the Audi will not be the same as pleasure% difference. I am a believer in "bang for the buck" so go with the least expensive, model with the options and color you want, and buy during winter if possible to get best deal.

I am assuming maintenance will be like any Audi. I did buy warranty on my 2010, because of what I read here about the magnetic suspension.

Realistically, the stock V10 is overkill, and I have a 6 speed. You won't have the linear torque of the 570s, but how much can we really punch our cars safely and responsibly in streets.

All of my mods are and will be more cosmetic.

I am in my 40s as well, and while financial planning is important, I don't try to defer too many things into a future that we can't be sure about. Like the whole gambling thing, do it if you enjoy, but set your limits, win or lose.

 

Based on your description on the financial background (100k+loan), I think the r8 is a perfect fit. Mclaren release cars very often, they will depreciate very fast in the future. There's definitely a lot of room to drop for the 570s. The 14-15 R8 is very very good bang for the buck, and you can drive it worry free for another 8 years (assuming after your warranty expires in 2018, you buy extended warranty for another 5-6 years)..that's a long period of worry-free supercar ownership. You can search for the common issues on the r8, nothing much that the warranty doesnt cover. The warranty rates are like any other audi very inexpensive
Besides, the car will probably bottom out not far from what you pay for.

If the regular v10 is a great deal get it. Get a VF ECU tune $1700 will give you another 60hp that can be uploaded and unloaded very easily. That power increase will easily surpass the +

The carbon brake is both good and bad....when it comes time for replacement they are extremely expensive, but they do last for a while (depending how much you drive). There are also a LOT of aftermarket carbon option for the car that you can swap in or out..the wing is one of the most common piece.

And I agree with some of the comments here..the incremental "happiness index" is very little for spending more $$ on the 570s or anything pricey. R8 is indeed best bang for the buck and a car that u can actually drive, and having to worry less about it racking up repair bills like the italians or british

 

If there is any, ANY possibility that finances can get strained, go with the Audi. Try to find one with Audi Care and your maintenance should be covered until year 4. If you do have to finance part of your purchase, look at Pen Fed.

 

Why pen fed? I Was going to use my credit union.....

 

Love your attitude, you only live once... that's what got me over my initial hesitation and into a V10 with no regrets. If you don't plan to track your car, I would think that the R8 will be the perfect choice: good looks, comfort (with magneride), plenty of power, and good handling aided by an an "almost" AWD system. From what I have read and seen, the McLaren will beat out any R8 on the track, but it's a stiffer car that's more focused and less approachable. Based on your stated use, and a more modest price tag, the R8 is the clear choice.... unless your heart feels differently about it, in which case all bets are off.

 

Threads like this just make me laugh. Cars like this are nothing more than toys. If you don't have the 100% disposable cash to acquire it then you SHOULD NOT be contemplating it. If there's any chance of financial hiccups after purchasing then that should be a huge red flag right there. Buying any toy should have little to no impact on your resources. But then again, debt and FoMO seems to be the norm for people nowadays.

 

So you are saying that we should just NOT live life? You only get one chance, and while I get your point, its not for everyone. Say someone takes home 3k a month, not enough for a supercar payment, but then gets a promotion or new job that takes that to 5-6k a month. That person could just keep saving until he has the funds to pay off the car completely, which will take years, or they could just get the car now and pay the 3-4% interest and LIVE LIFE......Its not putting a strain on my life financially, either way.......

 

Life's short. Enjoy it to the fullest.

 

First of all, paying cash for a car is one of the dumbest financial moves you can make. It's a depreciable asset. Finance it and save the cash for investments that can appreciate over time.

Second, the idea of owning an R8 is obviously a source of pride and motivation to many members here. If it makes you happy and makes going to work more enjoyable, is that so bad? Heck, you can get a low mileage early Gen 1 nowadays for the price of highly optioned Corvette. Why not live?

Third, who says it has to be just a garage toy? It's an Audi, for crying out loud. It can be a daily driving toy.

 

I just came back from at 15days 6000km drive. yesterday's total journey time was 17hours and total drive hours was 10hours+.

I can say it's a comfortable car... you definately can do DD on this car.

 

First - your questions. The maintenance costs aren't bad... but clearly they can GET bad if something goes wrong. If you buy an R8 out of warranty, make sure you're preparing for the worst while hoping for the best. They're relatively reliable, but the past doesn't dictate the future, and parts and labor aren't cheap for a car like this. Second, magnetic ride is worth it... at least for me. If you're not tracking the car, and you live in an area that has less than perfect roads, magnetic ride helps make the car more compliant. But by all means, a passive setup is far from impossible to live with - so don't let that scare you. Keep in mind, however, that the magnetic ride shocks are prone to failure (as wonderful as they are), and they come with large costs to replace.

Regarding "should you" buy an R8... or any supercar. It's really a very personal topic. Being technically able to do it, of course, isn't the same as being able to afford it. There are good points on both sides of the debate here. On one hand, yes, it's a massive toy. Nobody NEEDS a supercar. The real question becomes, "what am I giving up to own it?" There's always something. Are you working a few years longer? Are you foregoing nicer vacations? The answer, for nearly anyone, means a compromise of SOMETHING. It's just a matter of knowing what that something is and being very honest with yourself about the trade-offs.

For me, it's just about retirement. I'm in my 30's - I have a 7-figure portfolio of investments, nice house, married, etc. I'm doing well, but I still need to work for a living. Buying the R8, for me, meant a small step backwards in reaching an eventual goal of saying, "hell with it, I'm done." Like yourself, I looked around and asked myself, what good is living if you're not living. But there's a cost. I bought my '15 new for about $191k after taxes. At full retirement age, had I left that money invested, it would have been close to about $2M. So that's the "real cost" for me - I wasn't going to use the money for anything else. In fact, these days I have NOTHING (thankfully) large to purchase any longer... so it's all just about eventually being retired. So, my point again - just know what you're compromising... and do the math and get comfortable with the reality of your decision.

Now, would I do it again? You bet. I'll still likely retire 1 - 2 decades early, and the R8 is an experience I'm glad to have at this age. Enjoying life, for me, is about financial freedom and the ability to spend time with my family. But, to your point, you don't know what's going to happen tomorrow... and you need to BALANCE planning wisely for tomorrow while enjoying the time you have today. Either extreme is bad.

 

I've had 2 R8 V10s, a 2011 and a current 2014. The facelift V10 with S-tronic and magride is guaranteed to put a smile on your face, as well as the faces of just about everyone who sees it. Ceramic brakes are worth it as a factory option, but harder to find in the market.

I say live. And I recommend taking it to the track once in a while, and taking it on long trips. This is the car that will change your whole attitude toward driving. It will fit you like a glove.

 

Sounds like either car will work for you, but if one puts greater financial strain on you it should be a no brainer. Plus the ongoing costs of the R8 should be far more manageable

 

Enjoy while you are able to. Outside of your family, your most valuable asset is your time, not money...
You might never run out of money, but I can promise you will run out of time...
Money without time is useless....
Buy whatever makes you happy.

 

Your car is ready and waiting...

 

Exactly spend your money whatever makes you happy.. watches... gold.. diamonds.. clothes... travels.. cars.. house.. summer house.. it will always be worthy
I bought my R8 even if I can't drive it now during the winter for almost 5 months.. it's worth every money I am spending on the car [emoji41]


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OP, I'm in the same boat as you - I can make the payments work comfortably on an R8, but a 570s with its higher list price and more expensive maintenance, has the possibility of uncomfortably stretching my budget a bit. I think it's definitely worth buying a supercar, as long as you can comfortably do so without any serious sacrifices - you only live once although to live with the stress of not being sure if you can afford it isn't worth it either.