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The car has just had the Mag ride replaced at Audi and has 2 years warranty on them I believe. The only other slight concern I have with the car. It has been serviced in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016,2017, 2018, 2019. The mileage between 13 and 15 was only 2000 miles. However it wasn't serviced at the yearly interval I in 2014. Would this be something of a concern or just me being picky?
Right to be picky but that's a little OTT IMHO - an annual service every year regardless of mileage is what you're aiming for.
That was my point. It didn't have a service in 2014 so didn't have the yearly service. It went 2 years between servicing. I didn't know if that would have been a concern or not
 

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Hi All,

Literally going through the same process as you Jed. I've just sold my V8 Vantage and have my eye on a V10 Coupe as the replacement. I have been watching the prices though for about a year so thought I would chip in if it's useful. Over the last year I have been tracking sales roughly monthly and the depreciation seems to have been ok(ish). I've really only been watching the 50/60k market as this has been my price point. When i started watching the stuff that is now going for about 50/52k was going for 55/56 when i started watching March last year and the stuff I was seeing at 60k is now going for 55/56k. All told it tells you it's been about 3.5/5k in the last year as a drop on the same age/millage cars. I have only really been watching stuff between 20k and 50k in miles as well as people seem to have silly expectations of the increase in value for stuff below 20k miles.

I hope this helps you a bit? I've just lost about 3k a year on my V8 vantage. and I did the same on my previous 911. I think in this kind of age of secondhand semi supercar stuff you have to expect to lose £300 roughly a month. The Audi's seem to have been a little worse than some but better than others. I think this is mainly down to the new model coming out as well. It's hard to know if it is but i would guess so. My guess is therefore the drop should be a little less in a years time unless brexit soften's the economy too much then it gets really naff.

I have also been watching Private vs Dealer. Based on what I have seen the private stuff isn't selling well. It seems from my eye anyway that a lot of private stuff holds for quite a long time (2 months) then you see it pop up at a dealer then sell. This is only watching Auto trader though. Don't know if others sell privately better on Pistonheads etc.

Hope this helps a little?

Shaun
 

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Hi All,

Literally going through the same process as you Jed. I've just sold my V8 Vantage and have my eye on a V10 Coupe as the replacement. I have been watching the prices though for about a year so thought I would chip in if it's useful. Over the last year I have been tracking sales roughly monthly and the depreciation seems to have been ok(ish). I've really only been watching the 50/60k market as this has been my price point. When i started watching the stuff that is now going for about 50/52k was going for 55/56 when i started watching March last year and the stuff I was seeing at 60k is now going for 55/56k. All told it tells you it's been about 3.5/5k in the last year as a drop on the same age/millage cars. I have only really been watching stuff between 20k and 50k in miles as well as people seem to have silly expectations of the increase in value for stuff below 20k miles.

I hope this helps you a bit? I've just lost about 3k a year on my V8 vantage. and I did the same on my previous 911. I think in this kind of age of secondhand semi supercar stuff you have to expect to lose £300 roughly a month. The Audi's seem to have been a little worse than some but better than others. I think this is mainly down to the new model coming out as well. It's hard to know if it is but i would guess so. My guess is therefore the drop should be a little less in a years time unless brexit soften's the economy too much then it gets really naff.

I have also been watching Private vs Dealer. Based on what I have seen the private stuff isn't selling well. It seems from my eye anyway that a lot of private stuff holds for quite a long time (2 months) then you see it pop up at a dealer then sell. This is only watching Auto trader though. Don't know if others sell privately better on Pistonheads etc.

Hope this helps a little?

Shaun
Very useful information mate, thanks. I haven't watched the market over the years on R8s like I have on others. It's abit of an impulse buy as it was at a local dealer so I called in for a look. I expected £3-5k a year loss. I was planning on having it 12 months and have come to a deal that they will throw in 2 years warranty. This way I can sell it with 12 months remaining and it is transferable. My biggest concern as you say was brexit. I've read it a few times on the GTR forum that expensive cars will suffer. I'm don't know enough about brexit to know, was just going to take the risk and hope we get through it

Thanks for the info. Also do u think from your experience the car in question is worth the £52k they are asking. Blue 2010 spyder, manual with 35k miles, full audi history, recent service, 4 new tyres, full new mag ride at Audi, new Brakes all round. The warranty for 2 years is an extra £1000
 

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Based on what I have seen Jed i'd say that is a decent price yes. That said what I am going on is what I have been tracking them advertised at online. I don't know how much haggling has been going on. But the cars don't seem to be moving massively quickly so I would be hoping to get at least a grand off the advert price especially as you are buying cash. I always buy cash just like you and on my 911 I got them down 3k and on my Aston I got them down by £1800.

I'd say it's worth putting in a 51k offer or force them to pick up the cost of the warranty.

With new mag ride all round, fresh rubber and all disks done it sounds like it's not going to need any upkeep over 12 months so on face value sounds a really decent price buddy!
 

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Brilliant thanks. Would he travel up north to view it? It's in West Yorkshire
You'll have to ask him but my assumption is you'll need to pay for his time which might make it more expensive that the option below....

... which is the RAC do a fully detailed PPI including a report with pictures and verbal summary for around £500. I've used them before and pulled out of a deal based on their report.

The AA, when I last looked, didn't do R8's.
 

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Not to want to hijack your thread Jed but seeing as the following info might be useful for both of us I hope you don't mind me putting to the board the below list of questions as a new buyer:

- From what I can see Mag ride is standard on all v10's? Am I right in this assumption?
- If the above is correct I would normally get any vehicle inspected before buying. Can an inspection tell you how soon the Mag Suspension is likely to go? If not is there a rough ball park on millage as to when it's likely to happen?
- same question on the AC compressor that everyone seems to get in a flap about. Can these be assessed at all? What kind of millage is normal to see them let go at?
- What millage do the Manual clutches tend to need replacing at? The normal 35/50k miles?
- If you go auto is there much difference between the R tronic or the S tronic? If so what are the real day to day differences?
- What millage do the clutches tend to need replacing on the R and S tronic's?

Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered!

Shaun
 

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Not to want to hijack your thread Jed but seeing as the following info might be useful for both of us I hope you don't mind me putting to the board the below list of questions as a new buyer:

- From what I can see Mag ride is standard on all v10's? Am I right in this assumption?
- If the above is correct I would normally get any vehicle inspected before buying. Can an inspection tell you how soon the Mag Suspension is likely to go? If not is there a rough ball park on millage as to when it's likely to happen?
- same question on the AC compressor that everyone seems to get in a flap about. Can these be assessed at all? What kind of millage is normal to see them let go at?
- What millage do the Manual clutches tend to need replacing at? The normal 35/50k miles?
- If you go auto is there much difference between the R tronic or the S tronic? If so what are the real day to day differences?
- What millage do the clutches tend to need replacing on the R and S tronic's?

Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered!

Shaun
- Yes
- Unlikely although you ask an inspector to check for signs of oil on the shocks. Unfortunately a ball park mileage doesn't exist - they can fail at any time
- A compressor replacement on a V8 is an engine out job, on a V10 it can be replacement with the engine in. Again, can fail at any time
- All depends on driving style I guess. However they're not the weakest part of an R8 and I've seen cars on their original clutch in the 60k miles
- Yes. R tronic is a single plate clutch (so effectively a manual with paddles and should be driven as such), S-tronic is dual plate so sharper, faster gear changing. Really have to drive both to see what you prefer but R-tronics are subject to issues from drivers not aware of how to use them (see previous comment on how to use them)
- I have a manual so not 100% sure but again, my impression is it can vary - all dependent on usage/wear etc.

Generally R8's are reliable supercars but when they fail, they are expensive to fix. A good PPI should help with this but unless your budget is really tight & stretched (in which case I'd re-consider buying a supercar) or the PPI is bad, just buy and enjoy the **** thing. Life really is too short!!
 

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Thanks for the feedback! Certainly used to paying super car repairs £10,000 to keep the Aston on the road the last 3 years!

But prior to that my 911 was so cheap to run as better build i'm hoping a bit like an Audi and therefore I'm just keen to stem some of the money bleed off!

Advice is really useful though so thanks!
 

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Based on what I have seen Jed i'd say that is a decent price yes. That said what I am going on is what I have been tracking them advertised at online. I don't know how much haggling has been going on. But the cars don't seem to be moving massively quickly so I would be hoping to get at least a grand off the advert price especially as you are buying cash. I always buy cash just like you and on my 911 I got them down 3k and on my Aston I got them down by £1800.

I'd say it's worth putting in a 51k offer or force them to pick up the cost of the warranty.

With new mag ride all round, fresh rubber and all disks done it sounds like it's not going to need any upkeep over 12 months so on face value sounds a really decent price buddy!
I've tried to get them down and they offered me, 4 new tyres, new Brakes, a service and full diamond cut wheel refurb. But they won't move on price as they say they are already the cheapest. They also state that they make more from finance than cash. If I was to take some finance they will knock money off the car but not cash. Suppose that's understandable, but annoying
 

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I've tried to get them down and they offered me, 4 new tyres, new Brakes, a service and full diamond cut wheel refurb. But they won't move on price as they say they are already the cheapest. They also state that they make more from finance than cash. If I was to take some finance they will knock money off the car but not cash. Suppose that's understandable, but annoying
To you 4 new tyres are £900 assuming they're Pirelli Pzeros (a little more if Michelin), new brakes and pads all round are £2,200, a full service assuming it's a major rather than minor service is £1,000 (£500 if the latter), full diamond cut wheel refurb is around £500 for all four.

So factor in those prices when making your decision - a good, clean PPI and I reckon that's a fair price.
 
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