Trading my Mclaren 12C for either a Ferrari 458 or a Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016)

youre on an r8 forum so the answer is obviously r8

Well I just sold my 12C in March and now own the a 2018 non plus R8. Honestly, the 12C felt faster and sounded better. Mine was a spider so I miss that considering I got the coupe this time. Overall the R8 feel better produced, the ride quality is better, much quieter and a better daily. This is second car though. I'm hoping a tune will wake it up so I enjoy it more. I would have kept my 12C but it was not reliable and the foggy headlights drove me nuts.

I guess you need to try both before deciding. The 458 is more of an occasion but is also considerably more costly to own. The R8 is likely to be better built, more reliable and with a decent exhaust, sound just as good if not better than the 458.

R8 all day

blswan said:

Well I just sold my 12C in March and now own the a 2018 non plus R8. Honestly, the 12C felt faster and sounded better. Mine was a spider so I miss that considering I got the coupe this time. Overall the R8 feel better produced, the ride quality is better, much quieter and a better daily. This is second car though. I'm hoping a tune will wake it up so I enjoy it more. I would have kept my 12C but it was not reliable and the foggy headlights drove me nuts.

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add an exhaust. will wake it up big time.

Fluffer said:

So, i am about to trade in my Mclaren since I am so sick of having it in the shop (4 months this season) and will trade it for either a 458 or Gen 2 R8.

I have to admit that It is a hard choice. I love the 458 but it is...well dated frankly. But still...it is a Ferrari and a lovely car.

The Gen 2 R8 (I have owned both The V8 and V10 Gen1) is VERY put togheter, MUCH better when it comes to modern comforts inside and still have that lovely V10 in the back.

So...help me out here. Wich one should I go for?

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Like you I owned 3 R8s (2 Gen1 and 1 Gen2) all coupes. I just traded my 2013 458 Spider for a 2018 R8 Spyder Plus. Don't get me wrong, I love the 458. Its an exciting car to drive but its usability at least for me was limited. I think I liked the "idea" of having one in the garage. The R8 Spyder Plus is an amazing car that I can actually use much more often (even as a daily). Everything works, the technology is far superior and the car is faster than the 458. The R8 Spyder Plus just gets to speed in a more precise and "God I didn't thing I was going that fast" way. You can't go wrong with either decision. Just think about how you're going to use the car (how often that is) and you'll know. If you have a lot of cars and just want to see what owning a 458 would be like then go for it. If you want to use the car regularly without any hassle go for the R8.

Lucretia said:

will wake it up big time.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm new to the R8, but from what I've read an exhaust is mostly to enhance sound on this car and doesn't do much in the way of performance. Not to mention the cost of most exhausts is atrocious. I just don't see it worth it. A tune on the other hand seems well worth the cost since I have a non plus.

Yes, exhaust is 99% for sound with some weight-savings. 580 hp is plenty for me. I wanted to enhance the V10 sound. I went from "liking" my R8 to driving with a massive grin on my face and chuckling like a kid at times with a proper exhaust. This is what helps to make the Hurracan an event - the sound.

jbusa95te said:

I've owned several R8's the newest one a 2017 plus. Truly an amazing car with awesome build quality and very fast View attachment 267933
. That said I'm now in a 458 Ferrari and it is much more of an event every time you drive it. My favorite car is the facelift V10 manual but I actually prefer the Ferrari to the Gen 2. It feels very special and if it came with a gated manual I would never need another car.

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That 458 is AMAZINGLY pretty in silver. Congrats man!

Lots of good inputs here. Drove the R8 today and it is a BIG improvement over the old one. Going to try the 458 onThursday so it will be nice to compare them. But yeah, The tech is great, dailies great and plenty of power on the plus model. And you can be pretty sure that it will you know, work . And cheaper to own as well.

It has plenty of advantages for sure.

Lucretia said:

Yes, exhaust is 99% for sound with some weight-savings. 580 hp is plenty for me. I wanted to enhance the V10 sound. I went from "liking" my R8 to driving with a massive grin on my face and chuckling like a kid at times with a proper exhaust. This is what helps to make the Hurracan an event - the sound.

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100% agree! Was not at all impressed with the "Sports" exhaust on my 2022. Had my Quicksilver exhaust installed 5 days into ownership, and now the car feels complete.

Good news for me that the R8 I am looking at have Capristo exhaust on it then by the sound of this

That's £4500 gbp right there. I have a Capristo on mine and love it.

jbusa95te said:

I've owned several R8's the newest one a 2017 plus. Truly an amazing car with awesome build quality and very fast View attachment 267933
. That said I'm now in a 458 Ferrari and it is much more of an event every time you drive it. My favorite car is the facelift V10 manual but I actually prefer the Ferrari to the Gen 2. It feels very special and if it came with a gated manual I would never need another car.

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Not considering any other factor, just purely the WOW factor of the looks...I would have to say the 458 has far more appeal than the R8.

Just one man's personal honest opinion....flame away!

Jim

458 will also continue to appreciate. Last of the NA ferraris. Values are almost exceeding the 488's that replaced them. It all depends on what you want the car for. As a daily, the R8 is a no-brainer choice over ferrari, but if you want a 'special' car that is limited use, the 458 is a different level of car all together that has long bottomed out on depreciation and is headed the other way now.

Not sure when the NA V10's will appreciate (R8/Lambo's) but I think when the electric stuff is mandated, even hybrid, the values will go forward. I agree with "Its a Good Day" post #17. I do believe the value of R8's are at bottom now but don't see them climbing much - EG at Glenmore Audi there is a pristine 2017 V10 + for $185k CDN ask with low km's on it.

Interesting...I asked around with friends and family and all of them voted for the R8. A bit surprising to be honest.

Also read som older threads and 458 was the clear winner in them. Maybe something have changed in the later years for the R8:s favor even in the looks department.

This might be worth considering too. Even if its not that big deal but the R8 is about 35k USD cheaper than the 458.