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I received delivery of my 2014 R8 V8 S Tronic this weekend. I already added about 150 miles and love it! I'll share pictures in a few weeks after I've cleaned it up and added a few items.

I want to thank this forum for the invaluable support and information. I'm not sure I would have had the confidence to pull the trigger this quickly without this group, so thank you! As a way of paying it forward, I want to share my experience from deciding on the R8 to shopping to purchasing and buying a warranty in order to help others considering taking the plunge or currently shopping for an R8. Some of the information in here I've shared in comments to other posts, so I apologize if this is redundant for some readers. You can also skip the next three paragraphs if you just want advice on the purchasing process.

Prior to my purchase I was driving (and still have) a 2010 Acura TSX with about 100,000 miles on it. My wife and I bought it new for her in 2010 and that was the most expensive car either of us have owned until now, so I did not come into this as an experienced sports car buyer/owner. Since high school, I've been a closet car enthusiast. I never, however, could really justify spending a lot on a car and didn't really see the point of owning a newer more expensive luxury sedan. A couple of years ago, I convinced my wife to let me buy a used 911 as a "mid-life crisis car" in two or three years. This summer, I rented a 2018 911 Carrera 4 for a few days. While it was fun zipping through the canyons and up the coast, it felt more like a bumpier version of a sedan on the freeway (not enough power to justify the bumpier ride). After flirting with the idea of various Aston Martins (and even briefly considering a Ferrari California--I decided I just couldn't bring that to a business meeting) and watching dozens of Doug Demuro videos, I decided that a Gen 1 R8 V8 S Tronic was the best solution.

I rented a 2014 S Tronic in October and drove it about 250 miles over two days. It was almost the opposite experience as the Porsche. Initially, I didn't love it, because I felt that the downshifts were too sudden and it felt like it might be too much car. However, after adjusting to it and figuring out how to tap the brakes and let the downshift do more of the work, I started to love the car. Unlike the Porsche, the slightly bumpy ride was offset by the power and sound of the engine. Having initially thought I didn't want a flashy car, I also realized that I preferred something that generated some thumbs up and wasn't as common in southern California as a 911 (or to paraphrase Doug Demuro, I wanted "something my dentist didn't have.")

Having figured out exactly the car I wanted, I next turned to this group to learn more about the specs. I also learned that there were only 349 v8 Gen 1 S Tronic coupes made for the US market, meaning that the chances of finding one in silver in the exact specs and condition I wanted were pretty low (who knows if one even exists). I eventually expanded my search to the 699 s tronic v8s or v10s and decided that black or silver would work (albeit with black diamond stitching and a premium stereo).

After plenty of lurking in this group, I asked a recent buyer here, @ExpertRanch, how he had gotten an out-of-state car inspected. He told me he used sport Matt at @SpeedOneMotorsports to assist him with the purchase. Matt co-owns a shop and R8 race team in Orange County and is a factory trained R8 technician who formerly worked at an Audi service department before going out on his own. I spoke with Matt for about 40 minutes on the initial call and found him to be knowledgeable, patient, and genuine. There was no hard sell or pressure whatsoever. I never got the sense that he thought I was asking stupid questions (even though I'm sure some were). Matt seemed in this to help find long-term customers for his shop and seems to enjoy talking about R8s with fellow enthusiasts. During the first call, Matt steered me away from V10 pluses, based on my description of how I intend to use the car. A few days later I found a car I was interested in and hired Matt to be my car buying consultant/concierge.

Matt's option #2 plan allowed me to send him an unlimited number of cars to advise me on until I found one, and purchased it, for one flat fee. As a certified and factory trained R8 technician and specialist, Matt has access to the Audi database and is able to pull up the service and car histories kept by Audi. For example, there was a black 2014 V10 with about 22,000 miles that looked promising. However, Matt advised me that based on the manufacture date and the fact that it had 2,000 miles on it before it was shipped to the dealer the car was likely a demo model and would likely have been driven very hard. I didn't investigate that car further. I also sent him a 2015 V10 for sale by a private owner. Matt contacted the owner, spoke to him about the car, arranged a facetime walk around to inspect the car, and coordinated a potential PPI with the local Audi dealer for me (I never did the PPI because it became clear that another buyer was further along in the process).

Next, I sent Matt a V8 with a lot of miles. Again, Matt contacted the independent dealer, asked about the car's history, obtained the service records, and arranged a PPI with a local Audi dealer. The independent dealer turned out to be a little shady and failed to provide me or Matt with an accurate description of the car's condition. At one point the dealer told me the car was "a 9.5 out of 10!" with the only issue being a few scratches on the back. Luckily, Matt was able to convince the local Audi technician to let him watch part of the PPI by video and ask some questions (the PPI was my cost, which was reasonable given Matt's fee--it would be impossible to Matt to absorb an unlimited number of third-party PPI costs). While the service manager told me they couldn't really tell me much about the look or smell of the car, the technician pointed our some significant flaws to Matt, including the fact that the paint on one of the doors didn't match and that the paint on the front bumper had some wrinkles where it was repainted. This was a car with a clean Carfax history! The car also had leaking struts and some other issues. The dealer denied knowing any of this or noticing the non-matching color despite, the car being in his showroom for six weeks, but he also asked if I would consider a lower price after having previously assured me that the seller (it was on consignment) had previously turned down anything less than what we had agreed to prior to the PPI. Even though it meant more work for Matt and no additional fees, Matt advised me to get my deposit back on that car and that's what I did. Disturbingly, when the local Audi dealer provided us with the PPI report, it didn't show any of the problems Matt had seen on the video and been told about by the technician. Audi claimed it was a computer error! Imagine if I had bought that car based only on that report??? The professional courtesy that was extended to Matt by the local technician and Matt’s willingness to make me see past my confirmation bias helped me avoid a potential disaster.

Finally, I found the car I ended up purchasing about a week later. I received an alert of a new car from Cargurus (obvious tip, sign up for alerts from Cargurus, Autotrader, Carfax, cars.com, etc., because the best cars go quickly). Within about an hour of receiving the alert on a Sunday morning, I contacted the dealer. The dealer hadn't even posted pictures, but I found older pictures by Googling the vin #. The dealer was extremely responsive and responded within about twenty minutes. I went back and forth with the dealer and Matt over the next couple of hours. Matt also hopped on the phone for about 30 or 40 minutes to discuss the car with me. The next day, Matt got in touch with the service manager at the local Audi dealership where the local dealer selling the car had brought it for servicing. The local service manager gave Matt a video walkthrough, showed him a little peeled paint on one of the wheels and told him the car was otherwise in excellent condition and vouched for the reputation of the selling dealer, which matched that dealer's reviews. The local Audi dealer told Matt it would be a waste of money to even do a PPI, because they had just checked the car as part of the service for the dealer. Based on the video walkthrough and the advice of the Audi dealer, Matt advised me to buy the car.

Additionally, throughout the process, Matt provided advice on pricing for various customizations, services, or upgrades I wanted to do to the various cars to help me consider the overall cost. He probably saved me hours of time tracking down local service managers and having preliminary discussions with some of the sellers. He easily spent hours discussing the cars, the process, and the various upgrades I asked him about (I asked, he wasn't upselling). He has also provided me with great referrals and ordered parts in advance of the arrival of my car. As an bonus, he's proving me with a 10% discount on the services I get at his shop. Bottom line, if you are from the SoCal area and serious about buying an R8, you should speak with him.

The dealer could not have been nicer and provided tremendous customer service. I was very lucky to find a car with a great dealer. I left the dealer a separate detailed five-star review on Cargurus.

Another star in the process was Heather Moyer at Tom Woods Audi in Indianapolis. Heather helped me purchase a seven year Fidelity platinum warranty. Heather was extremely responsive and easy to deal with. I got quotes from her for both the car I walked away from and the car I purchased prior to negotiating the prices for those cars. It was helpful to price the warranties in advance, because I learned that the prices are heavily tied to the mileage much more than the age of the car. As a result, the overall savings on a car with more miles versus one with fewer may not be as great as you might believe, because the warranty on the higher mileage car may costs thousands more than the warranty for the lower mileage car (and you may not be able to get as long of a warranty). My advice is to work with Heather (or at least whoever you plan on obtaining the warranty from) before you finalize the deal for the car and ask her to quote you the warranty options for the car based on the vin # and mileage.

Montway got the job done transporting the car across the country. They picked up the car within three business days (they had said within five business days) and got the car here four days later (they originally estimated a week). Their price for an enclosed carrier taking the car from the east coast to Los Angeles was $1,600, which seemed quite reasonable (Intercity Lines quoted $2,500 as a comparison).

I found that USAA had the best rates for insurance (the insurance broker my business manager put me in touch with told me there was no way he could compete with USAA for rates).

Next up, Matt is going to help me with a few upgrades before I take the car to Jason at Protective Film Solutions (referred to me by Matt, Jason is also an R8 enthusiast and forum member) for the color correction, PPF, and ceramic coating.

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Congratulations on getting your new car.
 
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It sounds like Matt was a huge help. It's nice to actually find someone that does what they say they will do. Kudos to him, I'm sure your well written review will get him some other customers. When I find people that are good to me, I pass them on. Glad you found the right car. It was definitely a big decision for me when I bought mine. At first, I had trouble justifying the expense, but I am so glad that I did. We only go around once and if you can have fun and not take food off of your table, I say, do it while you can. Enjoy your car and excellent write-up.
 
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Thanks! Pics coming first week of February. The car badly needs a good cleaning, new grill, and a few other items. In about a week and a half, I’m giving it up for about ten days to take care of everything. For now, I’m enjoying ride and the sound!
 

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@SprtsCrDad - First time I saw the car for real (very aggressive looking! I guess, I'm your car equivalent of the accountant brother-in-law and you are the MMA fighter! ha haa ) and what a great write up! Matt @SpeedOneMotorsports , you're gong to start having a clients ride? ha hhahahah where we all get together and meet up at your shop and drive somewhere like the beach, eat lunch and go our separate ways...
 

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That’s funny, because I hear it’s close to the opposite in real life!
h ahhahahaha, Matt must have said something! ha hah ahah
 

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Upgrading already? Well done!

You may want to include the 10 year warranty and point that out in your description. I would guess that’s a $10k+ value now after the 2021 price adjustment.
I'm selling it without the warranty as most others don't have it. Then I'll offer it to them after a deal has been made on price. Cost me $6, can't get 10yr at any price now for that car... but It's 12k for a 6 yr. So I'd be willing to sell the warranty for $9 or $10.. save them a couple grand and they get something they couldn't even buy on their own. If they don't want it. I get most of my $6k back anyway.

I already found a v10 I like, but making this deal happen with two sides open is like buying a house with a contingency. Will probably ruin it. But that's ok, there is always another one popping up.
 
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Did I read this correctly? Are you selling this now?


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Yep... it's already listed. Prices have gone up and will probably keep going up. I am going to buy a V10. :cool:
 
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