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Any recent updates on tire selection mainly for the road. I have a 2013 V10 plus with the standard P Zeroes fitted & wanted to change to an intermediate compound tire. It can get very wet here in Perth but we haven't had snow yet. I can get a new set of PS Cup 2's next month . They dont arrive in Australia till june so they must be a reasonably new build date. I have raced EVO mitsubishi's with Dunlop Direzza's, Avan AD08's & R888's but was worried about noise on the road & we cant get 245 /35 in some of those makes. Most of the information in your posts is 3-5 years old so I would really appreciate an update. The price on the PS Cups is good too, cheaper than the Pirellis R888s & Advans.
Interestingly those tyres are all w rated, so insurance might be an issue!
Thanks for the advice regarding the difference in the staggered rim/tire sizes as the difference in rolling circumference has always been an issue.
Cheers Daz
 
The PS Cup 2's are not that noisy when compaired to 888's and the like, and are also better in the wet. Another one to consider though is the new PS4S. It has had brilliant reviews and has shown good improvements over the Super Sports.
 
The PS Cup 2's are not that noisy when compaired to 888's and the like, and are also better in the wet. Another one to consider though is the new PS4S. It has had brilliant reviews and has shown good improvements over the Super Sports.
Would you recommend the N-spec or non-N-spec? On Tire Rack, the N-spec is labeled "Porsche", and google tells me that the Porsche guys recommend that version of the PS Cup 2s. So I am just wondering if it's really specific to Porsche, or if it's recommended for the R8...
 
I don't have any experience of N spec Cups, but have used N spec Supersports and non N Spec and tbh I couldn't tell any difference.
 
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Go get a set of PS4s.
Maybe not quite as sticky on the street as the Cups but they’ll outwear the Cups and be quieter on the road. I’m truly impressed with the 4s.
 
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A question for UK owners (I'm about to replace all 4 tyres on my R8 V8 19") ...

OEM tyres are Pzero - this would lead me to 235/35ZR19 91Y PIRELLI P-ZERO SPORT XL RO2 for the front @ £164/10 from Event Tyres and 295/30R19 100Y PIRELLI PZERO @ £248.53 - total £825.25 less £20 promo code until end of Dec. The Audi dealer quoted £962.

Are these the best tyres for normal use and can anybody beat £805?
 
A question for UK owners (I'm about to replace all 4 tyres on my R8 V8 19") ...

OEM tyres are Pzero - this would lead me to 235/35ZR19 91Y PIRELLI P-ZERO SPORT XL RO2 for the front @ £164/10 from Event Tyres and 295/30R19 100Y PIRELLI PZERO @ £248.53 - total £825.25 less £20 promo code until end of Dec. The Audi dealer quoted £962.

Are these the best tyres for normal use and can anybody beat £805?
Firstly I would not replace OEM Pirellis with Pirellis unless you insist on maintain the RO homologation. They do not work well in lower winter temperatures, and they age very quickly becoming very hard riding - less important if you are a high mileage user and regularly replacing. I'm fairly certain the Pirellis you listed are different tyres - the 295 RO1 rear is the old style OEM fitment and the 235 RO2 must be the newer PZ4 tread pattern, possibly homologated for another Audi RS model. No doubt the combination will work and may even be better but be aware of the different tread patterns. If you want to keep with exact OEM fitment, then select an RO1 front tyre.

On online shopping customer service, the most reliable and decent priced I have found to be Pneus tyres - they should be ~£700 (£135, £210) for a set of PZs. I've also used Oponeo but the last time in the summer I ordered tyres it took them ages and their tracking system was rubbish. Never used Blackcircles - prices seem good and they had good reviews by Autoexpress.

Personally I would try Michelin, Conti or Goodyears. I ran Eagle F1 for a couple of years on the gen1 and they so much more comfortable. I would even try Hankooks before going back to PZs.
 
Firstly I would not replace OEM Pirellis with Pirellis unless you insist on maintain the RO homologation. They do not work well in lower winter temperatures, and they age very quickly becoming very hard riding - less important if you are a high mileage user and regularly replacing. I'm fairly certain the Pirellis you listed are different tyres - the 295 RO1 rear is the old style OEM fitment and the 235 RO2 must be the newer PZ4 tread pattern, possibly homologated for another Audi RS model. No doubt the combination will work and may even be better but be aware of the different tread patterns. If you want to keep with exact OEM fitment, then select an RO1 front tyre.

On online shopping customer service, the most reliable and decent priced I have found to be Pneus tyres - they should be ~£700 (£135, £210) for a set of PZs. I've also used Oponeo but the last time in the summer I ordered tyres it took them ages and their tracking system was rubbish. Never used Blackcircles - prices seem good and they had good reviews by Autoexpress.

Personally I would try Michelin, Conti or Goodyears. I ran Eagle F1 for a couple of years on the gen1 and they so much more comfortable. I would even try Hankooks before going back to PZs.
You've perfectly described how I feel about Pirellis - wear quickly when new then go hard and not good when cold/old.

Out of Michelin, Conti or Goodyears, is there a strong preference?
 
Quite a few on here, myself included, opt for Michelins. The new Pilot Sport 4S is their latest and best offering.
 
You've perfectly described how I feel about Pirellis - wear quickly when new then go hard and not good when cold/old.

Out of Michelin, Conti or Goodyears, is there a strong preference?
Michelin would be the most popular non-OEM choice. I have not tried them but from online reviews they sound quite similar to the Goodyears Eagle F1 Asymmetric i.e. comfortable ride and and release in a more controlled manner when you approach / reach the limit. The PS4S is a newer tyre than the F1 so no doubt better performer though I never felt wanting for a better tyre after installing the F1s. Big difference in price though - you can have a set of Goodyears (Asymmetric 2 on the back, Asymmetric 3 on the front) for ~£510 to £530 all round from Oponeo or Pneus. PS4S will cost you almost a grand.

Even if you go for the cheaper F1, you will notice a huge difference in comfort and forgiveness at the limit compared to PZs - first time I drove off in them I actually thought I'd under-inflated them. Forum member Joo (since sold his R8 I think) was also very impressed on the F1 performance / value.
 
Do you know if I can get PS4's for 20" Modulare B30 for the rear? I was reading on the forum that people typically go 325/25/20 for rear but that size isn't available for PS4.. Is there another size I should consider for a 12.5 rear rim? Think that is what my Modulare B30 rear is...

Looks like i can get Michelin PSS ($374) rears on discounttire.com
 
As I just picked up a Gen2 R8, and find the ride a little jarring with the low profile 20's, I started investigating tire size options.
I've put together some charts with some data points to consider when shopping for tires.

Starting with Generation 1 R8's [and assuming all tires are being mounted on OEM wheels, with no spacers]...


Generation 1 - Front - 19"
OEM
235/35R19245/35R19255/35R19
19" x 8.5”Tire Width9.259.6510.04
5 x 112Sidewall Height3.233.393.5
42mm OffsetTire Height25.4725.7526.02
Scrub Radius00-3 mm
255 is the limit onRevs/Mile792783775
8.5" wide wheelsCloser to Suspension by0+5 mm+10 mm
Sticks out Further by0+5 mm+10 mm
Closer to Wheelwell by0+4 mm+7 mm
Generation 1 - Rear - 19"
OEMAlternate OEM
295/30R19305/30R19315/30R19325/30R19
19" x 11”Tire Width11.6112.0112.412.8
5 x 112Sidewall Height3.53.623.743.86
50mm OffsetTire Height25.9826.2226.4626.69
Scrub Radius00-2 mm-4 mm
325 is the limit onRevs/Mile777770763756
11" wide wheelsCloser to Suspension by0+5 mm+10 mm+15 mm
Sticks out Further by0+5 mm+10 mm+15 mm
Closer to Wheelwell by0+3 mm+6 mm+9 mm
 
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And now for the 2nd Gen R8... Starting with 19" OEM wheels.


Generation 2 - Front - 19"
OEM
235/35R19245/35R19255/35R19235/40R19245/40R19255/40R19
19" x 8.5”Tire Width9.259.6510.049.259.6510.04
5 x 112Sidewall Height3.233.393.53.73.864.02
42mm OffsetTire Height25.4725.7526.0226.4226.7327.05
Scrub Radius000-3 mm-4 mm-6 mm
255 is the limit onRevs/Mile783792775764755746
8.5" wide wheelsCloser to Suspension by00+5 mm00+5 mm
Sticks out Further by00+5 mm00+5 mm
Closer to Wheelwell by-3.5 mm0+4 mm8 mm+12 mm+16 mm
Generation 2 - Rear - 19"
OEM
Rear295/35R19305/35R19315/35R19325/35R19
19” x 11”Tire Width11.6112.0112.412.8
5 x 112Sidewall Height4.064.214.334.49
47mm OffsetTire Height27.1327.427.6827.95
Scrub Radius00-3 mm-4 mm
325 is the limit onRevs/Mile743736729721
11" wide wheelsCloser to Suspension by0+5 mm+10 mm+15 mm
Sticks out Further by0+5 mm+10 mm+15 mm
Closer to Wheelwell by0+4 mm+7 mm+11 mm
 
And lastly, the 20" sizes.


Generation 2 - Front - 20"
OEM
235/30R20245/30R20255/30R20235/35R20245/35R20255/35R20
20" x 8.5”Tire Width9.259.6510.049.259.6510.04
5 x 112Sidewall Height2.82.913.033.233.393.5
42mm OffsetTire Height25.5525.7926.0226.526.7727.05
Scrub Radius000-3 mm-4 mm-6 mm
255 is the limit onRevs/Mile789782775762754746
8.5" wide wheelsCloser to Suspension by00+5 mm00+5 mm
Sticks out Further by00+5 mm00+5 mm
Closer to Wheelwell by-3 mm0+3 mm+9 mm+12 mm+16 mm
Generation 2 - Rear - 20"
OEM
295/30R20305/30R20315/30R20325/30R20295/35R20305/35R20315/35R20325/35R20
20" x 11”Tire Width11.6112.0112.412.811.6112.0112.412.8
5 LugSidewall Height3.53.623.743.864.064.214.334.49
47mm OffsetTire Height26.9727.227.4427.6828.1528.4328.728.98
Scrub Radius000-2 mm-5 mm-6 mm-7 mm-9 mm
325 is the limit onRevs/Mile748741735729717710703696
11" wide wheelsCloser to Suspension by00+5 mm+10 mm00+5 mm+10 mm
Sticks out Further by00+5 mm+10 mm00+5 mm+10 mm
Closer to Wheelwell by-5 mm0+3 mm+6 mm+12 mm+15 mm+19 mm+22 mm
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