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I think everyone else is spot on, you need about 10k into it to get it where it needs to be, so around 75K is a more realistic price.

For comparison, I have a lower mileage 25k, 2011 v10 that I bought a little over a year ago. Passive coilovers, well-maintained, well-optioned with full carbon fiber interior and engine bay, and tires had good tread. Everything works perfectly.

Also was already wrapped completely matte black with a GT-style rear bumper and carbon fiber diffuser. Paid 89k for it, so not too much more than what they are asking for a much worse condition car. I know I got a deal on mine, considering the market has been going up on these cars because of how popular they have been lately on social media, but the car you are looking at just does not fit the bill and could easily turn into a problem child.
 
Hey all,

I'm really looking to get my hands on a Gen 1 Audi R8 V10.

One finally popped up in my area at 30K miles. Beautifully specced (for me at least). It seems to be in somewhat okay shape. But the left paddle shifter is broken off, the spoiler doesn't work, and the AC is broken. It shows visible wear that seems mostly typical for its mileage (aside from the shifter). There aren't even as many exterior dings as I was expecting (1-2 visible from 5 feet away).

I had a PPI done (european supercar specialist) and it found these things as issues, said it needs a new tensioner, but that engine and internals sounded good and that no leaks or anything else were noted.

They said the car looks like a higher mileage example than what it actually is and the tires barely have any tread left, even though the last owner had a tire replacement only 6K miles ago. I know these things are harder on tires, but wow they presumably must've ridden the thing pretty hard to go through that tread in 6K miles.

If it was mostly serviced well, is being driven "hard" for maybe 33% of its 30K life a really bad thing? I'd think most examples have some "spirited driving" under their belt by now?

Service history shows that it had a lot done and changed around 6K miles ago. Fluids, filters, etc. I'd maybe rate it a 7.5/10 on how well it was serviced. But 6K miles ago was 5-6 years ago. 4 owners mostly all averaged ~3K miles/year.

The dealer has it at 86K, which I think is definitely WAY too high considering the maintenance, tires, and functional repairs it needs have been calculated in the $10K-$15K range. The dealership seems pretty confident in their price since these cars now appear to be holding value or appreciating slowly, but there's no way I'm paying near that. They're quite delusional.

I should also note that it has some gross air bag suspension, but it's legit. So MagRides aren't a real concern at this time. However, it desperately needs some passive coilovers.

For anyone with experience or knowledge, your thoughts would be tremendously appreciated. Wondering if I've got a great R8 if the price can be negotiated down and given TLC, or if this thing is a time bomb. Thanks so much.

Editing to add that my budget is pretty firmly 85K all-in and to add the listing, since I'm sure you guys would like to see. Per the PPI, it also does seem to have a legitimate, and seemingly expensive, Akrapovic exhaust.

 
Not the best deal IMO. Definitely looking at around 10k or more to tune it up. Also take a look at the front frame. I think that year the front right frame had a tendency to crack. There was a fix by welding a brace. Others here may know more on the cracking issue .
 
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And are you sure reported mileage on the odometer is correct? My understanding is its not too hard to reset the mileage
 
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Buying an exotic is the same as getting into a relationship. Would you date a woman in that condition with questionable history? Save yourself the pain, frustration and money loss, there are plenty of other fish in the sea.
 
I wouldn't want it based on the fact that it has too many questionable items. If it has all of these "issues" on the surface, how well do you think it was maintained? Instead of repairing a piece of crap, pay more for a better car out of the gate. It takes a while to find a good car. Keep looking and when the right one comes up, make your move. I've gone through this process twice in less than a year and it can be a PITA, but effort now will payback later. Be willing to travel a little. Some people don't want to, but your view and opinions are all that matter. I want to see the car I'm buying with my own eyes. I've traveled far and wide to look at cars. Good Luck in your search.
 
Buying an exotic is the same as getting into a relationship. Would you date a woman in that condition with questionable history? Save yourself the pain, frustration and money loss, there are plenty of other fish in the sea.
To counter this argument, some go out of their way to find toxic with questionable history. Makes life more exciting! :D
 
I wouldn't want it based on the fact that it has too many questionable items. If it has all of these "issues" on the surface, how well do you think it was maintained? Instead of repairing a piece of crap, pay more for a better car out of the gate. It takes a while to find a good car. Keep looking and when the right one comes up, make your move. I've gone through this process twice in less than a year and it can be a PITA, but effort now will payback later. Be willing to travel a little. Some people don't want to, but your view and opinions are all that matter. I want to see the car I'm buying with my own eyes. I've traveled far and wide to look at cars. Good Luck in your search.
Charlie,

I have not seen any details on the new Mac, have I missed it ? Pictures ? Spec ?
 
Charlie,

I have not seen any details on the new Mac, have I missed it ? Pictures ? Spec ?
I thought I posted a pic, but not sure. Sorry to hijack thread, but I will share a couple for viewer enjoyment. The car is a 620R, MSO defined Blue Carbon body, also Senna seats and interior trim in Blue Carbon. More standard carbon on the outside on most everything except the white panels inset on the doors.

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Absolutely love this car. It also has the Motorsports suspension which is adjustable manually. It is loud inside, doesn't like bumps, but handles really well. And it has a 12 speaker stereo, which I can kind of hear on the highway. I was recently at an Audi club event at the track with my son who was driving. It made me want to get back on the track. I will most likely get it out next season.
 
@CharlieNJ What are the concrete steps you need to take to get back on the track next year. Let's set some goals and achieve them!

I'm also looking for some new goals as when I updated my bucket list last week on the plane, I realized I need some more to look forward to.
 
I would most certainly walk away from that. I have seen better examples of a well maintained pre-facelift V10. There are even a few listed here on the forum. Just gotta be patient.

Not sure what @Npc2396 sold his for, but it was a beautiful car and well worth his asking price: https://www.r8talk.com/threads/2014-r8-v10-jet-blue.184695/
Still have mine but its on vonsignment at NFI. https://www.nfiempire.com/used-vehicle-2014-audi-r8-v10-plus-coupe-2d-c-1435/
 
@CharlieNJ What are the concrete steps you need to take to get back on the track next year. Let's set some goals and achieve them!

I'm also looking for some new goals as when I updated my bucket list last week on the plane, I realized I need some more to look forward to.
First I would want to swap out the rotors and pads. The car has CCBs, but the OEM rotors are big $$$, so I would need to invest probably $20k for aftermarket brakes, a good set of tires and incidentals. It's more of the fact that I have to get the monkey off my back after crashing my other car. When I first started tracking the R8, it took a while before I was comfortable with what the car could do. I never got to push the other car I had before ending up in a wall, so I will definitely need some time to start easy and ramp up. I was at New Jersey Motorsports on Monday and Tuesday with my son; he was driving his car and it made me want to drive again. Incidentally, the last run of the day, a nicely setup Audi TTRS lost control going onto the front straight and ended up front first into the Tire Wall, totaling his car. He walked away, the car was not so lucky. When you drive on the track, that chance is always there. I just need to regain my confidence with my new car. The 620R is made for the track, so it's definitely something that I want to do.
 
Makes sense what you say. I believe we only live once and most people just dont set goals with a specific timeline and deliverables. You seem to have figured all that out and just need to work through the crash. I'm not sure if I would go back to the track after crashing because I dont have a passion for it. But it sounds like you do. And it sounds like it would be good family time. I've been doing K1 with my boys and its a fun outing and I can image a real track with a real car is 10x better.

Who sells the breaks and tires and can give you a written quote? I'd love to see it.
 
I thought I posted a pic, but not sure. Sorry to hijack thread, but I will share a couple for viewer enjoyment. The car is a 620R, MSO defined Blue Carbon body, also Senna seats and interior trim in Blue Carbon. More standard carbon on the outside on most everything except the white panels inset on the doors.

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Absolutely love this car. It also has the Motorsports suspension which is adjustable manually. It is loud inside, doesn't like bumps, but handles really well. And it has a 12 speaker stereo, which I can kind of hear on the highway. I was recently at an Audi club event at the track with my son who was driving. It made me want to get back on the track. I will most likely get it out next season.
That is one good looking beast. Love the roof scoops on the Macs. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Makes sense what you say. I believe we only live once and most people just dont set goals with a specific timeline and deliverables. You seem to have figured all that out and just need to work through the crash. I'm not sure if I would go back to the track after crashing because I dont have a passion for it. But it sounds like you do. And it sounds like it would be good family time. I've been doing K1 with my boys and its a fun outing and I can image a real track with a real car is 10x better.

Who sells the breaks and tires and can give you a written quote? I'd love to see it.
Besides the driving aspect, I've had both my sons with me, only 1 drives, but it's some good bonding time with them. We usually have to drive a few hours, stay over in a decent hotel, go out to eat and then be around Motorsport enthusiasts for a couple of days. It's a great time and everyone with a performance car should experience the track at least once or twice. I usually go twice per year, maybe three times on a good year. I also don't want to beat this car up, it's too nice. However, I want to experience it on the track. It's the only way to really drive these cars, R8 included.
I've been going with the Audi club and their events are organized, well run and very supportive to new drivers. I can't recommend them enough.
As far as brakes go, I'm looking at Triton long fiber CCB Rotors and I also buy Goodyear Supercar 3R for the track. Excellent performing tire ; next step would be slicks, but I've never run them.
 
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