I bought 2 Gen 1 GT3's from Asia earlier this year. Sold one last week and keeping the second. I do also know of several currently for sale ranging from the Non-Ultra to Ultra. Market value right now is in the $110k-$150k range. I also happen to know the current owner of a street converted GT3 that was purchased and imported to the US from Europe. I would say it's a reasonable comp to your car. He has been trying to sell it for substantially less than you are asking with no takers. I would be surprised if you got anywhere near your ask.

 

 

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Nick - if you sell, what will the next project be?!!

 

Not sure yet mate, considering a Gen 2 R8 GT3 conversion, Huracan Evo GT3 conversion or a Huracan Super Trofeo conversion

 

You forgot to mention the single LMS wiper installation

 

Jeez, I can't believe you're selling this car....

You'll probably ask what is it worth to me? Rightly or wrongly I've spent over £300k on this car and right now it doesn't make sense for me to sell it at a loss, or even a break-even. So I guess the ultimate question is... Is this car worth over £300k?

I'll ask how much does an actual LMS car cost now these days for a race team? I think that would be a benchmark to use because I have to think about the target audience who would value this type of car:

1. Race team who would gut the car and actually race it
2. A collector of race cars (not just any cars, but a person who wants to own race-built cars)
3. Some rich YouTuber trying to build more clout.

 

Never thought I would see that going up for sale. Amazing car for someone.

 

One mans opinion only but if you think this car will sell anywhere near $375,000 you are kidding yourself.
History has shown heavily modded cars rarely allow you to get out whole, especially a 2013 base model.

 

If it was LHD then for sure you would have a taker on this forum.

 

Jeez, I can't believe you're selling this car....



I'll ask how much does an actual LMS car cost now these days for a race team? I think that would be a benchmark to use because I have to think about the target audience who would value this type of car:

1. Race team who would gut the car and actually race it
2. A collector of race cars (not just any cars, but a person who wants to own race-built cars)
3. Some rich YouTuber trying to build more clout.

GT3 cars are about £400k from Audi. Second hand you can pick them up for about £150-200k. But it’s worth noting street legal equivalents do carry a premium. E.g. Huracan STO was priced almost double new compared to its non street-legal counterpart the Super Trofeo Evo.

agree with your audiences but would change the first one to track dayers etc. there is a niche in the market for street legal race cars that offer the balance of interior luxury and daily driving, with being an absolute track weapon at the same time. Allowing you to drive your car to the track, rag it, then drive it home!

One mans opinion only but if you think this car will sell anywhere near $375,000 you are kidding yourself.
History has shown heavily modded cars rarely allow you to get out whole, especially a 2013 base model.

You may be right! I can’t say what it’s worth for someone else. It’s a unique target audience that would appreciate this build and not see it as just essentially a 2013 base model as you put it. But like you say, whether it’s ‘worth’ the money put into it remains to be seen!

 

I see now; yes there might be an audience for those track dayers who want a street-legal race car.

You can contact Home - Race Cars For You and see if they're willing to help you find the next track dayer.

 

Nick - if this car was being sold oven ready when you were thinking about this project then how much would you have been willing to pay?

i have seen another GT conversion - not a patch on this - being listed for EUR 250k

and I know of a Gen 2 GT2 stradale version that sold for 300k euros

 

What a car, WOW!! Just incredible!

 

I'm not sure where you even begin with this... there won't be anything like it for a comparison, that's for sure.

This is definitely a car that will attract a very specific kind of buyer - someone who loves the LMS variant but wants street legal creature comforts. You did a really nice job with the conversion, and it was clearly a passion... no expense sparred, as you said. If you decide to list it, I'd go high - no sense negotiating with yourself from day 1.

Again, very nicely done!

 

Your car needs an episode on a YouTube channel.

let us know if we can help to put you in touch

 

What an incredible car, GLWTS!

 

If the steering wheel wasn't on the wrong side, I'd like to have it. 🤪

 

Woooooo very special R8 indeed

 

Can't believe it man!!

The RHD will kill your potential pool of buyers.
You've done a fantastic job with this build. A beautiful car.

For your and my sake both, I hope it goes high!
I know I'm putting way more in my car than what it will be worth, but I'm planning on keeping mine forever.

 

Can't believe it man!!

The RHD will kill your potential pool of buyers.
You've done a fantastic job with this build. A beautiful car.

For your and my sake both, I hope it goes high!
I know I'm putting way more in my car than what it will be worth, but I'm planning on keeping mine forever.

Thanks man! Yeah I'm definitely biased and have alot of attachment so the idea of letting it go cheap just doesn't compute!

Maybe I need to do a LHD conversion too hahahaha

 

I read your entire post and looked at the pictures. Your car is tastefully done and in a manner that looks similar to if the factory decided to make an gen 1 V10 R8 version of a Porsche 911 GT3/GT2 RS: a lightweight, track-ready, road legal super car... pretty cool. The rarity of the carbon body pieces and that fact that they are factory wind tunnel tested to produce max down force is what Audi should have done in more numbers like this. Love the steering wheel and seats. You retain the creature comforts: climate control, audio, cruise control - a fully dressed interior, making it a track focused super car could be driven to and from events or on a nice day in relative comfort. I'm curious, did you considered a 6 speed manual conversion or twin turbo setup? The ease of use with the R Tronic is nice to have on a road car, knowing every up shift and rev-matched downshift are executed right vs. the manual, though manual cars seem to fetch a premium these days, no? The properly done twin turbo conversions look like they can add value as well, but you compromise the balance of the weight reduction coupled with the 65hp bump in NA horsepower - the 5.2L V10 in NA form is such a sweet power plant. I would like to see a comparison video with your car and some of the pre owned super cars that are in the $250-350k range. Good luck with the sale should you choose to do so.

 

Thanks! Yeah that was the idea with the build. Even the new ABT XGT (R8 GT2) misses a big trick with the interior as it just has the racecar interior, no effort to improve the drivers experience or comfort for the streets. Which is where the GT3 RS, STO etc have a real sweet spot.

As for 6-speed manual conversion I would have loved to, but for some reason I felt it wouldn't feel right in the car. Racecars rarely have manual stick transmission. The S-Tronic really performs great and for track days not having to take your hands off the wheel feels alot more 'racecar'.

Twin Turbo vs Supercharger is again such a polarising subject. Sure either option would definitely give a performance boost but generally speaking they would also add weight. Keeping the OEM Engine with a tune to 600Hp felt like the sweet spot.

 

I think the thing against it is at the moment it's unproven.

You've built a car with ALL of the correct parts, but where are the videos of it on track passing everything? This should be an absolute weapon on circuit, but unless I've missed it in your build, there aren't any.

I can't see you getting 300k, surely you'd just buy a GT3RS for that sort of money.

It's a great car, but I simply can't see you getting close to the build cost. It's the same for most projects, they are so niche, the market is tiny already, the market for this must be miniscule.

GLWTS

 

Your potential market really needs to see this thing in depth on video.

a photo listing only will never get across the presence of this car. You need to also be able to tell its story. 20 mins on video with someone who knows what they are talking about would do wonders.

make a video of it side by side with a stock R8

 

I think the thing against it is at the moment it's unproven.

You've built a car with ALL of the correct parts, but where are the videos of it on track passing everything? This should be an absolute weapon on circuit, but unless I've missed it in your build, there aren't any.

I can't see you getting 300k, surely you'd just buy a GT3RS for that sort of money.

It's a great car, but I simply can't see you getting close to the build cost. It's the same for most projects, they are so niche, the market is tiny already, the market for this must be miniscule.

GLWTS

Very good point.
The fundamentals are there. E.g.

• This car is 1400kg dry, 600HP, RWD, >1200kg downforce @ 280kph, 11" wide Fronts & 12.5" wide (can fit 13") Rears.
• Porsche GT3 RS is 1450kg dry, 520HP, RWD, 860kg downforce @ 280kph, 9.5" wide Fronts & 12.5" wide Rears.

But like you say, the proof is in the pudding! I'll definitely be doing at least one more track day at Silverstone this summer so I'll get some sort of video/feature done if possible. Might see if Steller will get one of their pro drivers down to get a true representation too.

Your potential market really needs to see this thing in depth on video.

a photo listing only will never get across the presence of this car. You need to also be able to tell its story. 20 mins on video with someone who knows what they are talking about would do wonders.

make a video of it side by side with a stock R8

Yeah good shout mate, I'll hit you up later about the couple of guys you know. Wonder if I can couple the video feature with a day at Silverstone so we can see the thing really in action!

 

The track videos and side-by-side would be great selling points.

With an OEM full CF body, it's a killer look.

I agree with the above however, once you cross the barrier of GT3RS money it will be a hard sell. You're basically pulling from R8 enthusiasts, and people who want a full GT3 race car body kit, but ability to drive on the street. And you'd have to compare this to the 991 3RS, not the 992 with active aero etc.

You can find 991 GT3RS cars with the mileage you have for sub 200k at this point. Sometimes less. But the range is great there (mine is PTS and 3k miles and will fetch mid 200s likely.)

The other negative is there are a ton more P-car guys out there that will chose an RS.

If you TT the car, you can start comparing prices against 991 GT2 RS.

But again, all of these will be factory original cars, which people want.

We rarely get out of builds what it takes to put into building them.

My guess is you may get a buyer around 195-205k max. And that's if they are an Audi guy that loves the Gen 1 R8 LMS (like myself).

 

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