[JDH_UK]

How many miles do you have on the car? At the last MOT my car had only done 17,500m so I'm surprised that there were any signs of wear after such a low number of miles.

 

[mountainreef]

How many miles do you have on the car? At the last MOT my car had only done 17,500m so I'm surprised that there were any signs of wear after such a low number of miles.

I've got 40k on it now

 

[andyhofer]

My MOT is due on Friday and last year I had an advisory that there was some play in a pin / bush on the offside rear suspension arm. Really hoping I am not going to need everything replacing!!

I'd be surprised if they don't change all parts, like I said before, one arm showed wear, all arms needed changing. The only way round it would be to take it to an independent repairer and ask them to change just the one, but I would have thought there was a safety/performance reason for changing everything, rather than them doing it just for profit.

If the parts are new upgraded items that fit both V8 and V10, then changing all items is the only way.

 

[JDH_UK]

Got through the MOT with no issues and no advisories. Go figure

 

[R8_050]

I've got the same problem on an early V10 (2009). My rear lower control arms are faulty, but the ones i've got are no longer produced, so I have to change all 4 arms instead of 2, together with ball joints and some other stuff. This all comes up to a hefty price tag.

I suspect that early V10s had the same problem as the V8s, and the parts were updated after they started producing the V10.

Mileage on my car is just over 20k km - this is roughly 13k miles. So the wear is premature, no doubt about it.

Any tips on how I should argue for Audi covering the replacement cost of non-faulty items? Especially now that the production of first-gen R8 is over? Any documents I should cite, perhaps?

Audi techs - perhaps you know if there's a TSB on this issue?

 

[jcc]

no one in US experienced this issue?
had same issue with 08 S5 but at 65k

 

[racerex]

Not sure how many people this has impacted but I just went through this ordeal with my 2009 V8.

Some background I dug up is that back in 2011 Audi put out a Technical Service Bulletin stating that "due to further technical development" an updated/improved thicker diameter Control Arm assembly design was rolled into production sometime during 2011 production. It seems to have been all V8's and V10's (2008-2010) and up to and including VIN 002563 in 2011.

And because of the updated design if you have control arm ball joint issues AND if you have the older design you can't just replace that one part becaues simply speaking they no longer offer the part! Instead you have to update to the new design which necessitates replacing the upper and lower control arms on both sides, both tie rods, and both wheel bearing housings.

Bad News: It ends up costing close to $6k including parts, labor, and alignment
Good News: I got mine covered under aftermarket warranty. And I gotta say the car now feels crisp/tight like a fresh car.

 

[ezmaass]

Not sure how many people this has impacted but I just went through this ordeal with my 2009 V8.

Some background I dug up is that back in 2011 Audi put out a Technical Service Bulletin stating that "due to further technical development" an updated/improved thicker diameter Control Arm assembly design was rolled into production sometime during 2011 production. It seems to have been all V8's and V10's (2008-2010) and up to and including VIN 002563 in 2011.

And because of the updated design if you have control arm ball joint issues AND if you have the older design you can't just replace that one part becaues simply speaking they no longer offer the part! Instead you have to update to the new design which necessitates replacing the upper and lower control arms on both sides, both tie rods, and both wheel bearing housings.

Bad News: It ends up costing close to $6k including parts, labor, and alignment
Good News: I got mine covered under aftermarket warranty. And I gotta say the car now feels crisp/tight like a fresh car.

Glad to hear you got it covered. To be honest, I think it's good to replace these suspension parts routinely anyway - it's amazing how changing out the control arms, bushings, shocks, springs, etc can do wonders for the car. Suspensions take such a beating, and you don't realize how the ride and handling quality are suffering until you refresh it.

 

[Circuits]

I had this done to my car too a few years ago. It got caught on the PPI, and the Audi dealer did it for free for me.

 

[itsav8mate]

Hi all - for your awareness, I had this issue with the front and rear of my '07 V8 - and Audi's path was indeed to fit the later part number components. My 3rd party Warranty provider covered what would have been a £5,300.00 bill (though may have been less with some negotiation and goodwill). Note though that the warranty provider did wriggle a bit as initially they felt that this was not a repair, and was an upgrade/modification. Took some to-ing and fro-ing to get Audi to share the workshop guidelines.

 

[jschrauwen]

Not sure how many people this has impacted but I just went through this ordeal with my 2009 V8.

Some background I dug up is that back in 2011 Audi put out a Technical Service Bulletin stating that "due to further technical development" an updated/improved thicker diameter Control Arm assembly design was rolled into production sometime during 2011 production. It seems to have been all V8's and V10's (2008-2010) and up to and including VIN 002563 in 2011.

And because of the updated design if you have control arm ball joint issues AND if you have the older design you can't just replace that one part becaues simply speaking they no longer offer the part! Instead you have to update to the new design which necessitates replacing the upper and lower control arms on both sides, both tie rods, and both wheel bearing housings.

Bad News: It ends up costing close to $6k including parts, labor, and alignment
Good News: I got mine covered under aftermarket warranty. And I gotta say the car now feels crisp/tight like a fresh car.

Do you have the TSB number for this issue? I'm trying to get my head wrapped around the necessity to replace all of the rear suspension when a lower control arm bushing fatigues. This is completely unrealistic. I've owned Audi's for 12 years and this has never been their routine. I've had front lower control arms replaced on another Audi due to a flaw in the original design of it's bushing. The newer model years received the updated version. However, replacing those front lower control arms did not precipitate replacing all of the other supporting suspension components. Why would you. I could only see that necessity if the updated part could no longer fit. In this case, the newer updated version of the rear lower control arms do mate up to the existing older spindle/knuckle without the need to replace it and the other supporting/associated suspension parts.
I'd really like to see this TSB though.

 

[DaveL]

There's a lot of owners watching this thread, as jschrauwen said in his post, i can't get my head around it either!!!!!!

 

[racerex]

It's TSB # 2026402/2

 

[DaveL]

Only managed to find this -
NHTSA ID: 10124662
TSB ID: A401333 2026402-

Supersedes technical service bulletin group 40 number 11-18 dated july 14, 2011. when a control arm or wheel bearing housing (swivel bearing) is replaced, additional parts must be replaced due to a supersession of service parts.

Anyone found the actual document?

 

[scooby]

Ive just bought 42A505311B 420505375 & 42A505312B 420505376 from a French company shipping from Netherlands.

These are the original V8 items. So just replace the two rears and job done!

A

 

[DaveL]

Ive just bought 42A505311B 420505375 & 42A505312B 420505376 from a French company shipping from Netherlands.

These are the original V8 items. So just replace the two rears and job done!

A

Share the link to the company please.

 

[scooby]

that would have been to easy - https://www.carparts-onlineshop.com

 

[DaveL]

that would have been to easy - https://www.carparts-onlineshop.com

Super job Scooby, well found.

 

[scooby]

Audi wanted £4700 and no good will as car is over 10 years!

Ordered these Thursday and arrive Sunday!

Andy

 

[DaveL]

Audi wanted £4700 and no good will as car is over 10 years!

Ordered these Thursday and arrive Sunday!

Andy

Magic.